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Date: 17 Jan 2007 10:33:30
From: that *other* annoying little troll
Subject: sliily confused clownfish
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I have a clownfish tha seems convinced that one my large hawaiian feather dusters is some sort of funny looking anenome. She likes to swim through the feathers of it's crown, and I have seen her dropping food to it. At first the duster used to retract whenever the clown would swim though it's crown, but now it seems quite used to it. If you put your hand in the tank and try to move the rock the duster is attached to, the clown will start nipping at your hand. If you don't put your hand near the duster, she leaves your hand alone. There are two dusters right next to each other, and she only does this with one of them. This one particular duster seems to be HER duster. She never does this with the other duster, which is maybe 3 inches ways (close enough that the crowns touch) It's the only the female of my pair that does this - the male seems "skeptical" Anyone ever seen this sort of behavior before? Clownfish trying to host with something that is non-cnidarian? I have heard of them hosting with ricordias, mushrooms, frogspawn, etc, but never a duster worm!
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Date: 04 Feb 2007 15:14:27
From: swarvegorilla
Subject: Re: sliily confused clownfish
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"that *other* annoying little troll" <no-one@comcrap.net > wrote in message news:FY6dnVUvxLXK3DPYnZ2dnUVZ_umlnZ2d@comcast.com... >I have a clownfish tha seems convinced that one my large hawaiian feather >dusters is some sort of funny looking anenome. She likes to swim through >the feathers of it's crown, and I have seen her dropping food to it. > > At first the duster used to retract whenever the clown would swim though > it's crown, but now it seems quite used to it. > > If you put your hand in the tank and try to move the rock the duster is > attached to, the clown will start nipping at your hand. If you don't put > your hand near the duster, she leaves your hand alone. > > There are two dusters right next to each other, and she only does this > with one of them. This one particular duster seems to be HER duster. She > never does this with the other duster, which is maybe 3 inches ways (close > enough that the crowns touch) It's the only the female of my pair that > does this - the male seems "skeptical" > > Anyone ever seen this sort of behavior before? Clownfish trying to host > with something that is non-cnidarian? I have heard of them hosting with > ricordias, mushrooms, frogspawn, etc, but never a duster worm! > I had a rock in a dead spot that got lots hair algae the darwin morph ocellaris actually tried to breed in it several times and I have a pair that uses a fake jelly/plastic anemone and yep go as far as to feed it :)
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Date: 17 Jan 2007 09:44:51
From: Tristan
Subject: Re: sliily confused clownfish
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Its farily common behavior for clowns without a anemone to do that. I have seen mine host in clams, feather dusters, pulsing zenia, toadstool leathers, any and all kinds of mushrooms. The only problem is, often it will lead to the demise or severe beating of the coral or critter due to the clows buffeting actions. My one clown got so bad at buffeting corals and was destroying most every coral inthe process, so I removed him from the tank and sent him packing. In an huors time he managed to uproot and tear up over 2 dozen assorted shrooms, a huge yellow toadstool leather, rip the crown up on 2 nice large feather dusters and literally get sand strewn all over the tank from his wallowing out holes in the sand bed.....Now the clown is in a 12 gal nano cube......in someone elses house. I am not a big fan of anemones, such as condylactus, BTA and Hatian etc. So thats why I did not have a "so called" proper anemone for the clowns, but then again they really do not have to have them either, as I had one clown that did perfectly fine without any. On Wed, 17 2007 10:33:30 -0500, that *other* annoying little troll <no-one@comcrap.net > wrote: << >>I have a clownfish tha seems convinced that one my large hawaiian << >>feather dusters is some sort of funny looking anenome. She likes to swim << >>through the feathers of it's crown, and I have seen her dropping food to it. << >> << >>At first the duster used to retract whenever the clown would swim though << >>it's crown, but now it seems quite used to it. << >> << >>If you put your hand in the tank and try to move the rock the duster is << >>attached to, the clown will start nipping at your hand. If you don't put << >>your hand near the duster, she leaves your hand alone. << >> << >>There are two dusters right next to each other, and she only does this << >>with one of them. This one particular duster seems to be HER duster. She << >>never does this with the other duster, which is maybe 3 inches ways << >>(close enough that the crowns touch) It's the only the female of my pair << >>that does this - the male seems "skeptical" << >> << >>Anyone ever seen this sort of behavior before? Clownfish trying to host << >>with something that is non-cnidarian? I have heard of them hosting with << >>ricordias, mushrooms, frogspawn, etc, but never a duster worm! ------- I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!
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Date: 22 Jan 2007 00:15:57
From: Clams & Claws
Subject: Re: sliily confused clownfish
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Posted by psychotic net stalker Roy "Tristan" Hauer to the Jehovahs Witness religious newsgroup: tristansaintjohn@yahoo.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 4.255.242.132 "Carols Nightmare" <tristansaintjohn@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1169437733.395378.162080@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > hahahahaha, way to go shit head Carol, youscrewed up and neglected to > make a few changes in the forged headers etc. Your loosing it > carol............bye bye! From: "Carols Nightmare" <tristansaintjohn@yahoo.com > aka Roy Tristan Hauer Newsgroups: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn Subject: dorunday@gmail.com Carol Gulleys coveted email addy.please do not abuse it! dorunday@gmail.com dorunday@gmail.com Date: 21 2007 19:48:53 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 4 Message-ID: <1169437733.395378.162080@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com > NNTP-Posting-Host: 4.255.242.132 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1169437738 23124 127.0.0.1 (22 2007 03:48:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 2007 03:48:58 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com "Tristan" <tristansaintjohn@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:angsq2hv406hjhfuon1sg0gmduq3l59pv8@4ax.com... > Its farily common behavior for clowns without a anemone to do that. I > have seen mine host in clams, feather dusters, pulsing zenia, > toadstool leathers, any and all kinds of mushrooms. The only problem > is, often it will lead to the demise or severe beating of the coral or > critter due to the clows buffeting actions. My one clown got so bad at > buffeting corals and was destroying most every coral inthe process, > so I removed him from the tank and sent him packing. In an huors time > he managed to uproot and tear up over 2 dozen assorted shrooms, a huge > yellow toadstool leather, rip the crown up on 2 nice large feather > dusters and literally get sand strewn all over the tank from his > wallowing out holes in the sand bed.....Now the clown is in a 12 gal > nano cube......in someone elses house. > > I am not a big fan of anemones, such as condylactus, BTA and Hatian > etc. So thats why I did not have a "so called" proper anemone for the > clowns, but then again they really do not have to have them either, as > I had one clown that did perfectly fine without any. > > > On Wed, 17 2007 10:33:30 -0500, that *other* annoying little troll > <no-one@comcrap.net> wrote: > > <<>>I have a clownfish tha seems convinced that one my large hawaiian > <<>>feather dusters is some sort of funny looking anenome. She likes to swim > <<>>through the feathers of it's crown, and I have seen her dropping food to it. > <<>> > <<>>At first the duster used to retract whenever the clown would swim though > <<>>it's crown, but now it seems quite used to it. > <<>> > <<>>If you put your hand in the tank and try to move the rock the duster is > <<>>attached to, the clown will start nipping at your hand. If you don't put > <<>>your hand near the duster, she leaves your hand alone. > <<>> > <<>>There are two dusters right next to each other, and she only does this > <<>>with one of them. This one particular duster seems to be HER duster. She > <<>>never does this with the other duster, which is maybe 3 inches ways > <<>>(close enough that the crowns touch) It's the only the female of my pair > <<>>that does this - the male seems "skeptical" > <<>> > <<>>Anyone ever seen this sort of behavior before? Clownfish trying to host > <<>>with something that is non-cnidarian? I have heard of them hosting with > <<>>ricordias, mushrooms, frogspawn, etc, but never a duster worm! > > > > ------- > I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 01:49:05
From: Shelly Sandstorm
Subject: Re: sliily confused clownfish
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"Tristan" <tristansaintjohn@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:angsq2hv406hjhfuon1sg0gmduq3l59pv8@4ax.com... Roy Tristan advises poster to do something illegal......... "Roy" Tristan Hauer<Sonoma1720@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:43d3e952.28135215@news.east.earthlink.net... > Shotgun, 22 cal rifle, mean bad dog, rocks, and the best possible > method to take care of a heron or any other pest / predator problem is > to follow the triple S method.......Shoot, Shovel, Shutup about it. > Its farily common behavior for clowns without a anemone to do that. I > have seen mine host in clams, feather dusters, pulsing zenia, > toadstool leathers, any and all kinds of mushrooms. The only problem > is, often it will lead to the demise or severe beating of the coral or > critter due to the clows buffeting actions. My one clown got so bad at > buffeting corals and was destroying most every coral inthe process, > so I removed him from the tank and sent him packing. In an huors time > he managed to uproot and tear up over 2 dozen assorted shrooms, a huge > yellow toadstool leather, rip the crown up on 2 nice large feather > dusters and literally get sand strewn all over the tank from his > wallowing out holes in the sand bed.....Now the clown is in a 12 gal > nano cube......in someone elses house. > > I am not a big fan of anemones, such as condylactus, BTA and Hatian > etc. So thats why I did not have a "so called" proper anemone for the > clowns, but then again they really do not have to have them either, as > I had one clown that did perfectly fine without any. > > > On Wed, 17 2007 10:33:30 -0500, that *other* annoying little troll > <no-one@comcrap.net> wrote: > > <<>>I have a clownfish tha seems convinced that one my large hawaiian > <<>>feather dusters is some sort of funny looking anenome. She likes to swim > <<>>through the feathers of it's crown, and I have seen her dropping food to it. > <<>> > <<>>At first the duster used to retract whenever the clown would swim though > <<>>it's crown, but now it seems quite used to it. > <<>> > <<>>If you put your hand in the tank and try to move the rock the duster is > <<>>attached to, the clown will start nipping at your hand. If you don't put > <<>>your hand near the duster, she leaves your hand alone. > <<>> > <<>>There are two dusters right next to each other, and she only does this > <<>>with one of them. This one particular duster seems to be HER duster. She > <<>>never does this with the other duster, which is maybe 3 inches ways > <<>>(close enough that the crowns touch) It's the only the female of my pair > <<>>that does this - the male seems "skeptical" > <<>> > <<>>Anyone ever seen this sort of behavior before? Clownfish trying to host > <<>>with something that is non-cnidarian? I have heard of them hosting with > <<>>ricordias, mushrooms, frogspawn, etc, but never a duster worm! > > > > ------- > I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!
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Date: 18 Jan 2007 23:44:29
From: MarineLand
Subject: Re: sliily confused clownfish
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Get back on your meds Roy Tristan before eveyone knows what you are. Your alreay looking damn bad in the eyes of the public what with slandering old women... disabled vets and whoremongering the honky tonks.......... "Tristan" <tristansaintjohn@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:angsq2hv406hjhfuon1sg0gmduq3l59pv8@4ax.com... > Its farily common behavior for clowns without a anemone to do that. I > have seen mine host in clams, feather dusters, pulsing zenia, > toadstool leathers, any and all kinds of mushrooms. The only problem > is, often it will lead to the demise or severe beating of the coral or > critter due to the clows buffeting actions. My one clown got so bad at > buffeting corals and was destroying most every coral inthe process, > so I removed him from the tank and sent him packing. In an huors time > he managed to uproot and tear up over 2 dozen assorted shrooms, a huge > yellow toadstool leather, rip the crown up on 2 nice large feather > dusters and literally get sand strewn all over the tank from his > wallowing out holes in the sand bed.....Now the clown is in a 12 gal > nano cube......in someone elses house. > > I am not a big fan of anemones, such as condylactus, BTA and Hatian > etc. So thats why I did not have a "so called" proper anemone for the > clowns, but then again they really do not have to have them either, as > I had one clown that did perfectly fine without any. > > > On Wed, 17 2007 10:33:30 -0500, that *other* annoying little troll > <no-one@comcrap.net> wrote: > > <<>>I have a clownfish tha seems convinced that one my large hawaiian > <<>>feather dusters is some sort of funny looking anenome. She likes to swim > <<>>through the feathers of it's crown, and I have seen her dropping food to it. > <<>> > <<>>At first the duster used to retract whenever the clown would swim though > <<>>it's crown, but now it seems quite used to it. > <<>> > <<>>If you put your hand in the tank and try to move the rock the duster is > <<>>attached to, the clown will start nipping at your hand. If you don't put > <<>>your hand near the duster, she leaves your hand alone. > <<>> > <<>>There are two dusters right next to each other, and she only does this > <<>>with one of them. This one particular duster seems to be HER duster. She > <<>>never does this with the other duster, which is maybe 3 inches ways > <<>>(close enough that the crowns touch) It's the only the female of my pair > <<>>that does this - the male seems "skeptical" > <<>> > <<>>Anyone ever seen this sort of behavior before? Clownfish trying to host > <<>>with something that is non-cnidarian? I have heard of them hosting with > <<>>ricordias, mushrooms, frogspawn, etc, but never a duster worm! > > > > ------- > I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!
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Date: 18 Jan 2007 18:50:27
From: Wayne Sallee
Subject: Re: sliily confused clownfish
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That's why frilly mushrooms are a good choice. They are tuff, and can handle the abuse from the clowns, and they don't move around like anemones. Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets Wayne@WaynesPets.com Tristan wrote on 1/17/2007 10:44 AM: > Its farily common behavior for clowns without a anemone to do that. I > have seen mine host in clams, feather dusters, pulsing zenia, > toadstool leathers, any and all kinds of mushrooms. The only problem > is, often it will lead to the demise or severe beating of the coral or > critter due to the clows buffeting actions. My one clown got so bad at > buffeting corals and was destroying most every coral inthe process, > so I removed him from the tank and sent him packing. In an huors time > he managed to uproot and tear up over 2 dozen assorted shrooms, a huge > yellow toadstool leather, rip the crown up on 2 nice large feather > dusters and literally get sand strewn all over the tank from his > wallowing out holes in the sand bed.....Now the clown is in a 12 gal > nano cube......in someone elses house. > > I am not a big fan of anemones, such as condylactus, BTA and Hatian > etc. So thats why I did not have a "so called" proper anemone for the > clowns, but then again they really do not have to have them either, as > I had one clown that did perfectly fine without any. > > > On Wed, 17 2007 10:33:30 -0500, that *other* annoying little troll > <no-one@comcrap.net> wrote: > > <<>>I have a clownfish tha seems convinced that one my large hawaiian > <<>>feather dusters is some sort of funny looking anenome. She likes to swim > <<>>through the feathers of it's crown, and I have seen her dropping food to it. > <<>> > <<>>At first the duster used to retract whenever the clown would swim though > <<>>it's crown, but now it seems quite used to it. > <<>> > <<>>If you put your hand in the tank and try to move the rock the duster is > <<>>attached to, the clown will start nipping at your hand. If you don't put > <<>>your hand near the duster, she leaves your hand alone. > <<>> > <<>>There are two dusters right next to each other, and she only does this > <<>>with one of them. This one particular duster seems to be HER duster. She > <<>>never does this with the other duster, which is maybe 3 inches ways > <<>>(close enough that the crowns touch) It's the only the female of my pair > <<>>that does this - the male seems "skeptical" > <<>> > <<>>Anyone ever seen this sort of behavior before? Clownfish trying to host > <<>>with something that is non-cnidarian? I have heard of them hosting with > <<>>ricordias, mushrooms, frogspawn, etc, but never a duster worm! > > > > ------- > I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!
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Date: 18 Jan 2007 22:15:28
From: RubenD
Subject: Re: sliily confused clownfish
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I had 2 clownfish with no anemone and they did approach the corals but got stinged and develop some black spots. Finally they give up and the spots dissapear. I guess it's a matter of time for them to accept there is no host in the tank, but it certainly help to have at least 2 to keep company. BTW, I add the second one months after, just make sure it's either smaller or larger to avoid fighting. Ruben "Wayne Sallee" <Wayne@WayneSallee.com > wrote in message news:TjPrh.15958$X72.6485@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > That's why frilly mushrooms are a good choice. They are > tuff, and can handle the abuse from the clowns, and they > don't move around like anemones. > > Wayne Sallee > Wayne's Pets > Wayne@WaynesPets.com > > > Tristan wrote on 1/17/2007 10:44 AM: > > Its farily common behavior for clowns without a anemone to do that. I > > have seen mine host in clams, feather dusters, pulsing zenia, > > toadstool leathers, any and all kinds of mushrooms. The only problem > > is, often it will lead to the demise or severe beating of the coral or > > critter due to the clows buffeting actions. My one clown got so bad at > > buffeting corals and was destroying most every coral inthe process, > > so I removed him from the tank and sent him packing. In an huors time > > he managed to uproot and tear up over 2 dozen assorted shrooms, a huge > > yellow toadstool leather, rip the crown up on 2 nice large feather > > dusters and literally get sand strewn all over the tank from his > > wallowing out holes in the sand bed.....Now the clown is in a 12 gal > > nano cube......in someone elses house. > > > > I am not a big fan of anemones, such as condylactus, BTA and Hatian > > etc. So thats why I did not have a "so called" proper anemone for the > > clowns, but then again they really do not have to have them either, as > > I had one clown that did perfectly fine without any. > > > > > > On Wed, 17 2007 10:33:30 -0500, that *other* annoying little troll > > <no-one@comcrap.net> wrote: > > > > <<>>I have a clownfish tha seems convinced that one my large hawaiian > > <<>>feather dusters is some sort of funny looking anenome. She likes to swim > > <<>>through the feathers of it's crown, and I have seen her dropping food to it. > > <<>> > > <<>>At first the duster used to retract whenever the clown would swim though > > <<>>it's crown, but now it seems quite used to it. > > <<>> > > <<>>If you put your hand in the tank and try to move the rock the duster is > > <<>>attached to, the clown will start nipping at your hand. If you don't put > > <<>>your hand near the duster, she leaves your hand alone. > > <<>> > > <<>>There are two dusters right next to each other, and she only does this > > <<>>with one of them. This one particular duster seems to be HER duster. She > > <<>>never does this with the other duster, which is maybe 3 inches ways > > <<>>(close enough that the crowns touch) It's the only the female of my pair > > <<>>that does this - the male seems "skeptical" > > <<>> > > <<>>Anyone ever seen this sort of behavior before? Clownfish trying to host > > <<>>with something that is non-cnidarian? I have heard of them hosting with > > <<>>ricordias, mushrooms, frogspawn, etc, but never a duster worm! > > > > > > > > ------- > > I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!
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Date: 18 Jan 2007 17:51:17
From: Add Homonym
Subject: Re: sliily confused clownfish
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RubenD wrote: > I had 2 clownfish with no anemone and they did approach the corals but got > stinged and develop some black spots. > > Finally they give up and the spots dissapear. > > I guess it's a matter of time for them to accept there is no host in the > tank, but it certainly help to have at least 2 to keep company. > > BTW, I add the second one months after, just make sure it's either smaller > or larger to avoid fighting. > > Ruben > If the smaller one you have is a smaller size female, and you add a larger one which is almost certainly going to be female, you may get to see a nasty fight. Best bet is always add small ones.
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Date: 19 Jan 2007 01:04:27
From: George Patterson
Subject: Re: sliily confused clownfish
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Add Homonym wrote: > If the smaller one you have is a smaller size female, and you add a > larger one which is almost certainly going to be female, you may get to > see a nasty fight. No, you won't. The smaller will change sex, and that will be that. George Patterson Forgive your enemies. But always remember who they are.
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Date: 18 Jan 2007 23:46:08
From: Wayne Sallee
Subject: Re: sliily confused clownfish
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Yep, the best is to add smaller. Wayne Sallee Wayne's Pets Wayne@WaynesPets.com Add Homonym wrote on 1/18/2007 5:51 PM: > RubenD wrote: >> I had 2 clownfish with no anemone and they did approach the corals but >> got >> stinged and develop some black spots. >> >> Finally they give up and the spots dissapear. >> >> I guess it's a matter of time for them to accept there is no host in the >> tank, but it certainly help to have at least 2 to keep company. >> >> BTW, I add the second one months after, just make sure it's either >> smaller >> or larger to avoid fighting. >> >> Ruben >> > > If the smaller one you have is a smaller size female, and you add a > larger one which is almost certainly going to be female, you may get to > see a nasty fight. > > Best bet is always add small ones.
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Date: 17 Jan 2007 23:21:03
From: Cichlid-Mania
Subject: Re: sliily confused clownfish
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Roy Tristan........SHUT THE HELL UP >>>>>>>>>>you clueless jerkoff troll! No one cares about your flame war with disabled veterans and old ladies. take it to email already.......... you go from group to group destroying them with your toxic bullshit and negative vibes. Too bad Roy Tristan Hauer your not hanging, like your buddy Jabbers Santana contemplated doing in the suicide groups elling the depressed to kill themselves. Now all the tweo of you do is trash and make problems for any groups you all decide to hang out in. "Tristan" <tristansaintjohn@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:angsq2hv406hjhfuon1sg0gmduq3l59pv8@4ax.com... > Its farily common behavior for clowns without a anemone to do that. I > have seen mine host in clams, feather dusters, pulsing zenia, > toadstool leathers, any and all kinds of mushrooms. The only problem > is, often it will lead to the demise or severe beating of the coral or > critter due to the clows buffeting actions. My one clown got so bad at > buffeting corals and was destroying most every coral inthe process, > so I removed him from the tank and sent him packing. In an huors time > he managed to uproot and tear up over 2 dozen assorted shrooms, a huge > yellow toadstool leather, rip the crown up on 2 nice large feather > dusters and literally get sand strewn all over the tank from his > wallowing out holes in the sand bed.....Now the clown is in a 12 gal > nano cube......in someone elses house. > > I am not a big fan of anemones, such as condylactus, BTA and Hatian > etc. So thats why I did not have a "so called" proper anemone for the > clowns, but then again they really do not have to have them either, as > I had one clown that did perfectly fine without any. > > > On Wed, 17 2007 10:33:30 -0500, that *other* annoying little troll > <no-one@comcrap.net> wrote: > > <<>>I have a clownfish tha seems convinced that one my large hawaiian > <<>>feather dusters is some sort of funny looking anenome. She likes to swim > <<>>through the feathers of it's crown, and I have seen her dropping food to it. > <<>> > <<>>At first the duster used to retract whenever the clown would swim though > <<>>it's crown, but now it seems quite used to it. > <<>> > <<>>If you put your hand in the tank and try to move the rock the duster is > <<>>attached to, the clown will start nipping at your hand. If you don't put > <<>>your hand near the duster, she leaves your hand alone. > <<>> > <<>>There are two dusters right next to each other, and she only does this > <<>>with one of them. This one particular duster seems to be HER duster. She > <<>>never does this with the other duster, which is maybe 3 inches ways > <<>>(close enough that the crowns touch) It's the only the female of my pair > <<>>that does this - the male seems "skeptical" > <<>> > <<>>Anyone ever seen this sort of behavior before? Clownfish trying to host > <<>>with something that is non-cnidarian? I have heard of them hosting with > <<>>ricordias, mushrooms, frogspawn, etc, but never a duster worm! > > > > ------- > I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!
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