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Date: 12 Jan 2007 16:15:36
From: Pszemol
Subject: Skimmer - which one ?
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AquaC-EV120:
http://www.fishtanksdirect.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=22
Euro-Reef RS80:
http://www.euro-reef.com/csrs80specs.shtml
Octopus NW150:
http://www.reefoctopus.com/products.cfm?action=view&product=98&return=21
H&S 110-F2000:
http://www.hsaquaristik.de/start_eng.php (pick from the menu)
TUNZE 9010:
http://www.tunze.com/149.html?&L=1&C=US&user_tunzeprod_pi1[predid]=-infoxunter028
I am currently running 58 gallons reef tank, DSB with 10 gallon sump
with a hang-of-the-back SeaClone skimmer.
I have there quite a large hepatus tang, two adult oon clowns,
large bubble-tip anemone and royal gramma. Some inverts and corals, too...
Mostly soft corals, mushrooms, buttons, etc.
I am constantly battling algae growths of different kinds. Have been
using phosphate removers recently to get rid of reddish cyano but while
cyano is gone with phosphates at 0.05 I still have heavy&ugly brown
growth on almost all surfaces - algae forever, no luck! I have limited
feedings to minimum - tang is swimming with colapsed belly already, but
it does not work at all.
I will do water change, clean the rocks/walls, but after couple of days
everything is ugly again...
I think I need to upgrade my skimmer to get down with nutrients.
Seaclone removes a lot of gunk, but frequently gets clogged and
requires cleaning and adjusting frequently.
My under-the-tank cabinet is about 24" 1/2 high. Sump is currently
a simple 10g AGA tank, but can be replaced for something more
sophisticated to suit the new skimmer. The return pump is QuietOne
3000 (about 700gph submersible).
What will the best suited skimmer for my bioload and size of the cabinet ?
I need it to be reliable, not requiring frequent cleaning and adjusting
and must remove a lot of gunk from the water, of course... I would prefer
it fit under my tank inside the cabinet but if I have to go with HOB type I will.
Please advice,
Thanks!
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Date: 12 Jan 2007 21:11:21
From: that *other* annoying little troll
Subject: Re: Skimmer - which one ?
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Pszemol wrote:
> AquaC-EV120:
> http://www.fishtanksdirect.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=22
Get this one. It's a spray injection system, which is basically a
downdraft design. *Much* better than venturi or needle wheel desgin.
Work by shooting a high pressure stream of water into the surface of the
water in the reaction chamber. Same principal one uses when one takes a
bubble bath.
These are the best.
Really really. Seriously. I once read an article where someone tested a
downdraft (I think it was an ETS 1000 - no you don't want one of those -
MUCH bigger skimmer than you want!) against a large very expensive top
of the line venturi by running both on the same tank at the same time.
The downdraft did such a good job at pulling crap out of the water, and
it it so much more quickly than the downdraft, that the downdraft was
pretty much producing zilch in the way of foam, after both had been
running for a month.
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Date: 13 Jan 2007 13:17:53
From: that *other* annoying little troll
Subject: Re: Skimmer - which one ?
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that *other* annoying little troll wrote:
> Really really. Seriously. I once read an article where someone tested a
> downdraft (I think it was an ETS 1000 - no you don't want one of those -
> MUCH bigger skimmer than you want!) against a large very expensive top
> of the line venturi by running both on the same tank at the same time.
> The downdraft did such a good job at pulling crap out of the water, and
> it it so much more quickly than the downdraft, that the downdraft was
> pretty much producing zilch in the way of foam, after both had been
> running for a month.
>
er... that should have said:
The downdraft did such a good job at pulling crap out of the water, and
it it so much more quickly than the venturi, that the venturi was
pretty much producing zilch in the way of foam, after both had been
running for a month.
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Date: 14 Jan 2007 11:02:47
From: KurtG
Subject: Re: Skimmer - which one ?
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that *other* annoying little troll wrote:
> er... that should have said:
>
> The downdraft did such a good job at pulling crap out of the water, and
> it it so much more quickly than the venturi, that the venturi was
> pretty much producing zilch in the way of foam, after both had been
> running for a month.
>
We understood... :-)
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Date: 12 Jan 2007 19:56:05
From: KurtG
Subject: Re: Skimmer - which one ?
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I have a ASM G-3 Skimmer which works well. I'd buy something rated
higher then your tank size. This one is rated for 250g tank, but I have
a 110g.
Pszemol wrote:
> AquaC-EV120:
> http://www.fishtanksdirect.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=22
>
> Euro-Reef RS80:
> http://www.euro-reef.com/csrs80specs.shtml
>
> Octopus NW150:
> http://www.reefoctopus.com/products.cfm?action=view&product=98&return=21
>
> H&S 110-F2000:
> http://www.hsaquaristik.de/start_eng.php (pick from the menu)
>
> TUNZE 9010:
> http://www.tunze.com/149.html?&L=1&C=US&user_tunzeprod_pi1[predid]=-infoxunter028
>
>
>
> I am currently running 58 gallons reef tank, DSB with 10 gallon sump
> with a hang-of-the-back SeaClone skimmer.
>
> I have there quite a large hepatus tang, two adult oon clowns,
> large bubble-tip anemone and royal gramma. Some inverts and corals, too...
> Mostly soft corals, mushrooms, buttons, etc.
>
> I am constantly battling algae growths of different kinds. Have been
> using phosphate removers recently to get rid of reddish cyano but while
> cyano is gone with phosphates at 0.05 I still have heavy&ugly brown
> growth on almost all surfaces - algae forever, no luck! I have limited
> feedings to minimum - tang is swimming with colapsed belly already, but
> it does not work at all.
>
> I will do water change, clean the rocks/walls, but after couple of days
> everything is ugly again...
>
> I think I need to upgrade my skimmer to get down with nutrients.
> Seaclone removes a lot of gunk, but frequently gets clogged and
> requires cleaning and adjusting frequently.
>
> My under-the-tank cabinet is about 24" 1/2 high. Sump is currently
> a simple 10g AGA tank, but can be replaced for something more
> sophisticated to suit the new skimmer. The return pump is QuietOne
> 3000 (about 700gph submersible).
>
> What will the best suited skimmer for my bioload and size of the cabinet ?
> I need it to be reliable, not requiring frequent cleaning and adjusting
> and must remove a lot of gunk from the water, of course... I would prefer
> it fit under my tank inside the cabinet but if I have to go with HOB
> type I will.
>
> Please advice,
> Thanks!
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Date: 12 Jan 2007 18:02:09
From: sdsdevelopment
Subject: Re: Skimmer - which one ?
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"Pszemol" <Pszemol@PolBox.com > wrote in message
news:eo8c7c.5bs.0@poczta.onet.pl...
> AquaC-EV120:
> http://www.fishtanksdirect.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=22
>
> Euro-Reef RS80:
> http://www.euro-reef.com/csrs80specs.shtml
>
> Octopus NW150:
> http://www.reefoctopus.com/products.cfm?action=view&product=98&return=21
>
> H&S 110-F2000:
> http://www.hsaquaristik.de/start_eng.php (pick from the menu)
>
> TUNZE 9010:
> http://www.tunze.com/149.html?&L=1&C=US&user_tunzeprod_pi1[predid]=-infoxunter028
>
>
> I am currently running 58 gallons reef tank, DSB with 10 gallon sump
> with a hang-of-the-back SeaClone skimmer.
>
> I have there quite a large hepatus tang, two adult oon clowns,
> large bubble-tip anemone and royal gramma. Some inverts and corals, too...
> Mostly soft corals, mushrooms, buttons, etc.
>
> I am constantly battling algae growths of different kinds. Have been
> using phosphate removers recently to get rid of reddish cyano but while
> cyano is gone with phosphates at 0.05 I still have heavy&ugly brown
> growth on almost all surfaces - algae forever, no luck! I have limited
> feedings to minimum - tang is swimming with colapsed belly already, but
> it does not work at all.
>
> I will do water change, clean the rocks/walls, but after couple of days
> everything is ugly again...
>
> I think I need to upgrade my skimmer to get down with nutrients.
> Seaclone removes a lot of gunk, but frequently gets clogged and
> requires cleaning and adjusting frequently.
>
> My under-the-tank cabinet is about 24" 1/2 high. Sump is currently
> a simple 10g AGA tank, but can be replaced for something more
> sophisticated to suit the new skimmer. The return pump is QuietOne
> 3000 (about 700gph submersible).
>
> What will the best suited skimmer for my bioload and size of the cabinet ?
> I need it to be reliable, not requiring frequent cleaning and adjusting
> and must remove a lot of gunk from the water, of course... I would prefer
> it fit under my tank inside the cabinet but if I have to go with HOB type
> I will.
>
> Please advice,
> Thanks!
The Euroreef is a in sump model that has sit in the sump or the like. It
will leak water set up as it is now since the water dumps straight out of
the riser. It can be made into an RC model (capable of out of sump/stand)
but will drive up the cost. I use one on my 29 frag tank, a CS6-1 on my 65g
reef and CS6-2 on my 90 gal reef. They work pretty well. Have not used any
of the others but have heard/read the EV-120 is a good skimmer also.
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