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Date: 27 Oct 2006 20:43:07
From: TheRock
Subject: Phytoplankton Cultures
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Does anyone have any experience with Phytoplankton Cultures
and is it worth making you own green water versus buying 2 fishes phytoplan
?
Here are some links that discuss DIY phyto.
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-07/ds/index.php
http://www.sas.org/E-Bulletin/2001-10-19/labNotes/labNotes.html
There is also something else that I've noticed that takes the culture
station a step farther
and that is a Phytoplankton Reactor...A.K.A. ....
A Culture in a tube that is Automatically fed to the tank.
http://www.aquacave.com/detail.aspx?ID=513
Is there any Value to culturing your own ?
TIA,
Chris
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Date: 28 Oct 2006 16:46:29
From: Pszemol
Subject: Re: Phytoplankton Cultures
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"TheRock" <none@none.com > wrote in message news:vbu0h.22$Gg5.6@trndny02...
> Is there any Value to culturing your own ?
I tried and for me - it is not worth it.
There is a disadvantage, that is for sure...
You never know when to harvest algae because
amounts of it and conditions are not repeatable
(read: unknown). Than when you harvest too early
than you will pour a lot of nutrients with culture
water and feed hair algae. If you harvest too late
than you feed reef with starved, dead algae - > less
nutritional value.
Cost, time and effort is greater than buing bottle
fresh concentrate algae from aquaculture sources.
I am not talking about this dissolved DT stuff...
I am talking about dark green stuff dense as honey.
You buy one bottle, pour the content into several
ice-cube trays, freeze it and than you have huge
and cheap supply of food for filter feeders...
http://www.reed-iculture.com/reefnutrition/
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Date: 30 Oct 2006 09:34:24
From: Pszemol
Subject: Re: Phytoplankton Cultures
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"Pszemol" <Pszemol@PolBox.com > wrote in message news:ei01h6.3lc.1@poczta.onet.pl...
> I am not talking about this dissolved DT stuff...
> I am talking about dark green stuff dense as honey.
>
> You buy one bottle, pour the content into several
> ice-cube trays, freeze it and than you have huge
> and cheap supply of food for filter feeders...
>
> http://www.reed-iculture.com/reefnutrition/
This is the better deal:
http://www.reed-iculture.com/microalgae/
One bottle will supply a whole reef-club :-)
Or one user for a long, long time under the
condition it will get frozen and used over time.
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Date: 31 Oct 2006 00:27:05
From: TheRock
Subject: Re: Phytoplankton Cultures
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"Pszemol" <Pszemol@PolBox.com > wrote in message
news:ei4gv4.egk.0@poczta.onet.pl...
> "Pszemol" <Pszemol@PolBox.com> wrote in message
> news:ei01h6.3lc.1@poczta.onet.pl...
>> I am not talking about this dissolved DT stuff...
>> I am talking about dark green stuff dense as honey.
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>> You buy one bottle, pour the content into several
>> ice-cube trays, freeze it and than you have huge
>> and cheap supply of food for filter feeders...
>>
>> http://www.reed-iculture.com/reefnutrition/
>
> This is the better deal: http://www.reed-iculture.com/microalgae/
> One bottle will supply a whole reef-club :-)
> Or one user for a long, long time under the
> condition it will get frozen and used over time.
Interesting ! So what do recommend from the buffet ?
Nannochloropsis, Isochrysis , Tetraselmis ... I guess I don't need to be
able to pronounce any of them : )
How's that 58 gallon algae problem going anyway ?
Did you try out a new skimmer yet ?
Chris
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Date: 30 Oct 2006 18:59:02
From: Pszemol
Subject: Re: Phytoplankton Cultures
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"TheRock" <none@none.com > wrote in message news:tLw1h.3121$mX4.1255@trndny03...
> Interesting ! So what do recommend from the buffet ?
> Nannochloropsis, Isochrysis , Tetraselmis ... I guess
> I don't need to be able to pronounce any of them : )
nanochloropsis are very small cells,
tetraselmis are the biggest...
The best is the mixture.
If you can afford only one, than pick the nanochloropsis.
This is the species in DT Phytoplankton and it was just
fine but not concentrated enough for the price they wanted.
> How's that 58 gallon algae problem going anyway ?
> Did you try out a new skimmer yet ?
Doing water changes so far and limiting feeding...
Not decided on new skimmer yet.
I think I will try some phosphate removal thingies first.
What do you think ?
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Date: 31 Oct 2006 03:03:24
From: TheRock
Subject: Re: Phytoplankton Cultures
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"Pszemol" <Pszemol@PolBox.com > wrote in message
news:ei5i1m.2og.1@poczta.onet.pl...
> "TheRock" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:tLw1h.3121$mX4.1255@trndny03...
>> Interesting ! So what do recommend from the buffet ?
>> Nannochloropsis, Isochrysis , Tetraselmis ... I guess
>> I don't need to be able to pronounce any of them : )
>
> nanochloropsis are very small cells,
> tetraselmis are the biggest...
> The best is the mixture.
> If you can afford only one, than pick the nanochloropsis.
> This is the species in DT Phytoplankton and it was just
> fine but not concentrated enough for the price they wanted.
>
>> How's that 58 gallon algae problem going anyway ?
>> Did you try out a new skimmer yet ?
>
> Doing water changes so far and limiting feeding...
> Not decided on new skimmer yet.
> I think I will try some phosphate removal thingies first.
> What do you think ?
I only have experience with 2 types of phosphate removers...
Two Little Fishies Phosban and Kent Phosphate sponge.
I tried the Phosban per a conversation we had here a while back about
ferric oxide hydroxide -vs- soluble Aluminum...blah blah blah.
They both work pretty good but I think I prefer Kent's product.
I have Phosban in the sump now and I've seen lower phosphate levels prior.
But perhaps the tank is a bit more dirty these days.
Hey you can try one of those PhosBan Reactor 150's from Two little Fishies
for $40 and let us know how well it works !
http://www.inedepot.com/md_viewItem.asp?idproduct=TL4311
Chris
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Date: 30 Oct 2006 22:57:02
From: Pszemol
Subject: Re: Phytoplankton Cultures
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"TheRock" <none@none.com > wrote in message news:02z1h.3622$OK3.2598@trndny09...
>> Doing water changes so far and limiting feeding...
>> Not decided on new skimmer yet.
>> I think I will try some phosphate removal thingies first.
>> What do you think ?
>
> I only have experience with 2 types of phosphate removers...
> Two Little Fishies Phosban and Kent Phosphate sponge.
> I tried the Phosban per a conversation we had here a while back about
> ferric oxide hydroxide -vs- soluble Aluminum...blah blah blah.
> They both work pretty good but I think I prefer Kent's product.
> I have Phosban in the sump now and I've seen lower phosphate levels prior.
> But perhaps the tank is a bit more dirty these days.
>
> Hey you can try one of those PhosBan Reactor 150's from Two little Fishies
> for $40 and let us know how well it works !
> http://www.inedepot.com/md_viewItem.asp?idproduct=TL4311
Thanks, Chris - I was going to rig something "DIY"
out of the old tap water filter by Aquarium Pharmaceuticals
but with the price below $40 I am not that motivated anymore ;-)
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Date: 27 Oct 2006 23:06:33
From: Wayne Sallee
Subject: Re: Phytoplankton Cultures
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There is value if you like raising stuff, and tinkering
with it, otherwise you will find it more trouble than it's
worth. It also helps to have a good microscope.
Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets
Wayne@WaynesPets.com
TheRock wrote on 10/27/2006 4:43 PM:
> Does anyone have any experience with Phytoplankton Cultures
> and is it worth making you own green water versus buying 2 fishes phytoplan
> ?
>
> Here are some links that discuss DIY phyto.
> http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-07/ds/index.php
> http://www.sas.org/E-Bulletin/2001-10-19/labNotes/labNotes.html
>
> There is also something else that I've noticed that takes the culture
> station a step farther
> and that is a Phytoplankton Reactor...A.K.A. ....
> A Culture in a tube that is Automatically fed to the tank.
> http://www.aquacave.com/detail.aspx?ID=513
>
> Is there any Value to culturing your own ?
>
> TIA,
> Chris
>
>
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