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Date: 19 Sep 2004 12:37:17
From: Allyb
Subject: Nitrates and Phosphates out of control
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I'm having a hard time in my tank with algae, I believe due to the fact that
I can't get my nitrate and phosphate levels right. I hope someone has some
advice, or can tell me if I'm doing the right thing and just need to be
patient.
I have a 55 gallon tank. First, I have very high levels of phosphates in my
well water, and am using Kent ine phosphate remover in my fluval 304 to
lower the levels. Using a Red Sea test kit, the lowest I can get my levels
is somewhere just below 0.1. Seems like I should be able to get them to 0,
but I keep adding fresh phosphate remover, and my levels stay the same. Is
there a test kit that's shows a wider range at lower levels? 0.1 is still
too high, isn't it?
Second, I'm using green light stump remover for nitrates. I put three
tablespoons in 1 cup of water so that each ml added to my tank should be
about 1ppm. I've been adding 1 to 2 ml per day so as not to stress the
fish, and I test every day and the levels are 0. How much can I safely add
at once without hurting the fish? Are the plants really consuming that much
every day? Oh, I have red temple plants, eusterallis stellata, and some
other misc stuff, those are the largest plants.
Thanks for your help in advance! Allison
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Date: 20 Sep 2004 11:03:19
From: Happy'Cam'per
Subject: Re: Nitrates and Phosphates out of control
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MIDPOSTED
"Allyb" <allyb@a1isp.net > wrote in message
news:cikdf7$35q$1@news.chatlink.com...
> I'm having a hard time in my tank with algae, I believe due to the fact
that
> I can't get my nitrate and phosphate levels right. I hope someone has
some
> advice, or can tell me if I'm doing the right thing and just need to be
> patient.
Chill :)
>
> I have a 55 gallon tank. First, I have very high levels of phosphates in
my
> well water, and am using Kent ine phosphate remover in my fluval 304 to
> lower the levels. Using a Red Sea test kit, the lowest I can get my
levels
> is somewhere just below 0.1. Seems like I should be able to get them to
0,
> but I keep adding fresh phosphate remover, and my levels stay the same.
Is
> there a test kit that's shows a wider range at lower levels? 0.1 is still
> too high, isn't it?
First off, 0.1 should be fine, if not a tad low!!!!
I doubt your Phosphate test kit is accurate to 0.1 anyway!
You can dose Po4 in the form of 'Fleet Enema' from the chemist, pharmacy
etc.
>
> Second, I'm using green light stump remover for nitrates. I put three
> tablespoons in 1 cup of water so that each ml added to my tank should be
> about 1ppm. I've been adding 1 to 2 ml per day so as not to stress the
> fish, and I test every day and the levels are 0. How much can I safely
add
> at once without hurting the fish? Are the plants really consuming that
much
> every day? Oh, I have red temple plants, eusterallis stellata, and some
> other misc stuff, those are the largest plants.
Allison, it is safe for you to add as much as 15ppm in one go, I've heard of
people who go as high as 40ppm but I would say 20ppm would be my cut off
line. I do this with no adverse effects to the fish. If you are running a
high light co2 setup then the plants can gobble as much as 5ppm per day in a
well running heavily planted tank. Try and keep your No3 level between
5-15ppm, this should keep you out of trouble. If Cyanobacteria (BGA) shows
up it means either your phosphate or No3 has bottomed out and you will need
to add some.
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**So long, and thanks for all the fish!**
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Date: 20 Sep 2004 17:55:25
From: Allyb
Subject: Re: Nitrates and Phosphates out of control
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Thanks for the great advice! I was afraid to add to much nitrate at once.
I'm off to dose the aquarium! Goodbye algae, woo hoo!!
Allison
"Happy'Cam'per" <s@c.c.c > wrote in message
news:cim66o$ibv$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
> MIDPOSTED
>
> "Allyb" <allyb@a1isp.net> wrote in message
> news:cikdf7$35q$1@news.chatlink.com...
> > I'm having a hard time in my tank with algae, I believe due to the fact
> that
> > I can't get my nitrate and phosphate levels right. I hope someone has
> some
> > advice, or can tell me if I'm doing the right thing and just need to be
> > patient.
>
> Chill :)
>
> >
> > I have a 55 gallon tank. First, I have very high levels of phosphates
in
> my
> > well water, and am using Kent ine phosphate remover in my fluval 304
to
> > lower the levels. Using a Red Sea test kit, the lowest I can get my
> levels
> > is somewhere just below 0.1. Seems like I should be able to get them to
> 0,
> > but I keep adding fresh phosphate remover, and my levels stay the same.
> Is
> > there a test kit that's shows a wider range at lower levels? 0.1 is
still
> > too high, isn't it?
>
> First off, 0.1 should be fine, if not a tad low!!!!
> I doubt your Phosphate test kit is accurate to 0.1 anyway!
> You can dose Po4 in the form of 'Fleet Enema' from the chemist, pharmacy
> etc.
>
> >
> > Second, I'm using green light stump remover for nitrates. I put three
> > tablespoons in 1 cup of water so that each ml added to my tank should be
> > about 1ppm. I've been adding 1 to 2 ml per day so as not to stress the
> > fish, and I test every day and the levels are 0. How much can I safely
> add
> > at once without hurting the fish? Are the plants really consuming that
> much
> > every day? Oh, I have red temple plants, eusterallis stellata, and some
> > other misc stuff, those are the largest plants.
>
> Allison, it is safe for you to add as much as 15ppm in one go, I've heard
of
> people who go as high as 40ppm but I would say 20ppm would be my cut off
> line. I do this with no adverse effects to the fish. If you are running a
> high light co2 setup then the plants can gobble as much as 5ppm per day in
a
> well running heavily planted tank. Try and keep your No3 level between
> 5-15ppm, this should keep you out of trouble. If Cyanobacteria (BGA) shows
> up it means either your phosphate or No3 has bottomed out and you will
need
> to add some.
> --
> **So long, and thanks for all the fish!**
>
>
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