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Date: 02 Jun 2007 11:22:53
From: newguy62497
Subject: First gold fish tank

Hi, I'm thinking about trying a tank with gold fish in it for the first
time. I dont want to buy some gigantic aquarium or anything, I was thinking
about trying to find something acrylic in the 10 to 20 gallon range. Would
this be a good enviroment for goldfish? How about fancy goldfish or koi?
What kind filtration system should I be looking at? I've heard that goldfish
produce a lot of waste so I want to make sure I get a good filter in place.
Is an undergravel filter adequate? How about one of those biowheel under the
hood things? What kind of fish gravel should I be looking at? Should I get a
sucker fish to put in there with them? I want to make sure I get a setup
that can meet the needs of the fish and that they wont outgrow. Any
information would be great thanks.

Date: 10 Jun 2007 15:29:26
From:
Subject: Re: First gold fish tank

On Jun 3, 4:22 am, "newguy62497" <newguy62...@cox.net > wrote:
> Hi, I'm thinking about trying a tank with gold fish in it for the first
> time. I dont want to buy some gigantic aquarium or anything, I was thinking
> about trying to find something acrylic in the 10 to 20 gallon range. Would
> this be a good enviroment for goldfish? How about fancy goldfish or koi?
> What kind filtration system should I be looking at? I've heard that goldfish
> produce a lot of waste so I want to make sure I get a good filter in place.
> Is an undergravel filter adequate? How about one of those biowheel under the
> hood things? What kind of fish gravel should I be looking at? Should I get a
> sucker fish to put in there with them? I want to make sure I get a setup
> that can meet the needs of the fish and that they wont outgrow. Any
> information would be great thanks.

What you should do, newyguy, is buy yourself a nice big property about
the size of a regular dam catchment area, make sure it is replete with
non-toxic spring-fed streams, in an area where goldfish or koi or any
other sort of carp are native, and go from there.

Imprisoning any type of animals should be a criminal offense. Flushing
them down the toxic sewer system is even worse. Cruelty to animals is
no different from cruelty to any living creature, full stop.

Only fucken weirdos get a buzz out of imprisoning free creatures and
perving on them day in, day out.

Date: 13 Jun 2007 16:39:22
From: Telstar
Subject: Re: First gold fish tank

<franknfurter_franknstein@yahoo.com.au > wrote in message
news:1181514566.289870.55780@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 3, 4:22 am, "newguy62497" <newguy62...@cox.net> wrote:
>> Hi, I'm thinking about trying a tank with gold fish in it for the first
>> time. I dont want to buy some gigantic aquarium or anything, I was
>> thinking
>> about trying to find something acrylic in the 10 to 20 gallon range.
>> Would
>> this be a good enviroment for goldfish? How about fancy goldfish or koi?
>> What kind filtration system should I be looking at? I've heard that
>> goldfish
>> produce a lot of waste so I want to make sure I get a good filter in
>> place.
>> Is an undergravel filter adequate? How about one of those biowheel under
>> the
>> hood things? What kind of fish gravel should I be looking at? Should I
>> get a
>> sucker fish to put in there with them? I want to make sure I get a setup
>> that can meet the needs of the fish and that they wont outgrow. Any
>> information would be great thanks.
>
> What you should do, newyguy, is buy yourself a nice big property about
> the size of a regular dam catchment area, make sure it is replete with
> non-toxic spring-fed streams, in an area where goldfish or koi or any
> other sort of carp are native, and go from there.
>
> Imprisoning any type of animals should be a criminal offense. Flushing
> them down the toxic sewer system is even worse. Cruelty to animals is
> no different from cruelty to any living creature, full stop.
>
> Only fucken weirdos get a buzz out of imprisoning free creatures and
> perving on them day in, day out.
>

I think you are the weirdo and are perv.

Date: 14 Jun 2007 12:40:30
From: swarvegorilla
Subject: Re: First gold fish tank

"Telstar" <none@none.net > wrote in message
news:f4pv7a$g7j$1@zinnia.noc.ucla.edu...
>
> <franknfurter_franknstein@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:1181514566.289870.55780@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jun 3, 4:22 am, "newguy62497" <newguy62...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> Hi, I'm thinking about trying a tank with gold fish in it for the first
>>> time. I dont want to buy some gigantic aquarium or anything, I was
>>> thinking
>>> about trying to find something acrylic in the 10 to 20 gallon range.
>>> Would
>>> this be a good enviroment for goldfish? How about fancy goldfish or koi?
>>> What kind filtration system should I be looking at? I've heard that
>>> goldfish
>>> produce a lot of waste so I want to make sure I get a good filter in
>>> place.
>>> Is an undergravel filter adequate? How about one of those biowheel under
>>> the
>>> hood things? What kind of fish gravel should I be looking at? Should I
>>> get a
>>> sucker fish to put in there with them? I want to make sure I get a setup
>>> that can meet the needs of the fish and that they wont outgrow. Any
>>> information would be great thanks.
>>
>> What you should do, newyguy, is buy yourself a nice big property about
>> the size of a regular dam catchment area, make sure it is replete with
>> non-toxic spring-fed streams, in an area where goldfish or koi or any
>> other sort of carp are native, and go from there.
>>
>> Imprisoning any type of animals should be a criminal offense. Flushing
>> them down the toxic sewer system is even worse. Cruelty to animals is
>> no different from cruelty to any living creature, full stop.
>>
>> Only fucken weirdos get a buzz out of imprisoning free creatures and
>> perving on them day in, day out.
>>
>
> I think you are the weirdo and are perv.
>
>

Telstar you are right on so many levels it's fookin scary.
That said it's all a careful troll.
Still pretty funny tho, Donny killed your dad kids.
LOL

Date: 13 Jun 2007 18:47:58
From: A. Paul. Ing
Subject: Re: First gold fish tank

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:39:22 -0700, "Telstar" <none@none.net > wrote:

<< >>
<< >><franknfurter_franknstein@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
<< >>news:1181514566.289870.55780@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
<< >>> On Jun 3, 4:22 am, "newguy62497" <newguy62...@cox.net> wrote:
<< >>>> Hi, I'm thinking about trying a tank with gold fish in it for the first
<< >>>> time. I dont want to buy some gigantic aquarium or anything, I was
<< >>>> thinking
<< >>>> about trying to find something acrylic in the 10 to 20 gallon range.
<< >>>> Would
<< >>>> this be a good enviroment for goldfish? How about fancy goldfish or koi?
<< >>>> What kind filtration system should I be looking at? I've heard that
<< >>>> goldfish
<< >>>> produce a lot of waste so I want to make sure I get a good filter in
<< >>>> place.
<< >>>> Is an undergravel filter adequate? How about one of those biowheel under
<< >>>> the
<< >>>> hood things? What kind of fish gravel should I be looking at? Should I
<< >>>> get a
<< >>>> sucker fish to put in there with them? I want to make sure I get a setup
<< >>>> that can meet the needs of the fish and that they wont outgrow. Any
<< >>>> information would be great thanks.
<< >>>
<< >>> What you should do, newyguy, is buy yourself a nice big property about
<< >>> the size of a regular dam catchment area, make sure it is replete with
<< >>> non-toxic spring-fed streams, in an area where goldfish or koi or any
<< >>> other sort of carp are native, and go from there.
<< >>>
<< >>> Imprisoning any type of animals should be a criminal offense. Flushing
<< >>> them down the toxic sewer system is even worse. Cruelty to animals is
<< >>> no different from cruelty to any living creature, full stop.
<< >>>
<< >>> Only fucken weirdos get a buzz out of imprisoning free creatures and
<< >>> perving on them day in, day out.
<< >>>
<< >>
<< >>I think you are the weirdo and are perv.
<< >>
Second th9ught Telstar, stay here and voice your pinin all you want,
and add tothe noise level. Mucho appreciated dumbass!

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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Date: 13 Jun 2007 12:59:46
From: swarvegorilla
Subject: Re: First gold fish tank

Date: 10 Jun 2007 20:36:26
From: newguy62497
Subject: Re: First gold fish tank

This post is great I got a real laugh out of it! =D I guess it is kind of
weird to put fish in a tank and stare at them I never really thought about
it that way lol. Anyway as one of the fellas on here suggested I've been
looking for upwards of a 30 gallon tank so they won't outgrow the thing. I'm
still looking at filters and what not too. There are a lot more options now
than there was the last time I had an aquarium.

<franknfurter_franknstein@yahoo.com.au > wrote in message
news:1181514566.289870.55780@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 3, 4:22 am, "newguy62497" <newguy62...@cox.net> wrote:
>> Hi, I'm thinking about trying a tank with gold fish in it for the first
>> time. I dont want to buy some gigantic aquarium or anything, I was
>> thinking
>> about trying to find something acrylic in the 10 to 20 gallon range.
>> Would
>> this be a good enviroment for goldfish? How about fancy goldfish or koi?
>> What kind filtration system should I be looking at? I've heard that
>> goldfish
>> produce a lot of waste so I want to make sure I get a good filter in
>> place.
>> Is an undergravel filter adequate? How about one of those biowheel under
>> the
>> hood things? What kind of fish gravel should I be looking at? Should I
>> get a
>> sucker fish to put in there with them? I want to make sure I get a setup
>> that can meet the needs of the fish and that they wont outgrow. Any
>> information would be great thanks.
>
> What you should do, newyguy, is buy yourself a nice big property about
> the size of a regular dam catchment area, make sure it is replete with
> non-toxic spring-fed streams, in an area where goldfish or koi or any
> other sort of carp are native, and go from there.
>
> Imprisoning any type of animals should be a criminal offense. Flushing
> them down the toxic sewer system is even worse. Cruelty to animals is
> no different from cruelty to any living creature, full stop.
>
> Only fucken weirdos get a buzz out of imprisoning free creatures and
> perving on them day in, day out.
>

Date: 10 Jun 2007 17:49:41
From: Pondmeister
Subject: Re: First gold fish tank

You better not let the assholes in the rec.ponds.moderated or the
other aquaria groups hear you say that. There s a bull Dyke named
Gill that will whip your fucking ass, as well as a Trans sexual named
TYNK and two carpet munchers named Kathy30a and Jan that will fuck
your eyes out with a broom stick.........I bring up al these wanna be
women because they are the worst threat, and the so called male
members are nothing but a bunch of pansey assed whimps.......who even
Gareee and old NICK Cramer could easily whop!

On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:29:26 -0700,
franknfurter_franknstein@yahoo.com.au wrote:

<< >>On Jun 3, 4:22 am, "newguy62497" <newguy62...@cox.net> wrote:
<< >>> Hi, I'm thinking about trying a tank with gold fish in it for the first
<< >>> time. I dont want to buy some gigantic aquarium or anything, I was thinking
<< >>> about trying to find something acrylic in the 10 to 20 gallon range. Would
<< >>> this be a good enviroment for goldfish? How about fancy goldfish or koi?
<< >>> What kind filtration system should I be looking at? I've heard that goldfish
<< >>> produce a lot of waste so I want to make sure I get a good filter in place.
<< >>> Is an undergravel filter adequate? How about one of those biowheel under the
<< >>> hood things? What kind of fish gravel should I be looking at? Should I get a
<< >>> sucker fish to put in there with them? I want to make sure I get a setup
<< >>> that can meet the needs of the fish and that they wont outgrow. Any
<< >>> information would be great thanks.
<< >>
<< >>What you should do, newyguy, is buy yourself a nice big property about
<< >>the size of a regular dam catchment area, make sure it is replete with
<< >>non-toxic spring-fed streams, in an area where goldfish or koi or any
<< >>other sort of carp are native, and go from there.
<< >>
<< >>Imprisoning any type of animals should be a criminal offense. Flushing
<< >>them down the toxic sewer system is even worse. Cruelty to animals is
<< >>no different from cruelty to any living creature, full stop.
<< >>
<< >>Only fucken weirdos get a buzz out of imprisoning free creatures and
<< >>perving on them day in, day out.

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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Date: 04 Jun 2007 13:06:49
From:
Subject: Re: First gold fish tank

http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/care/care1.htm#essentials

"newguy62497" <newguy62497@cox.net > wrote:

>Hi, I'm thinking about trying a tank with gold fish in it for the first
>time. I dont want to buy some gigantic aquarium or anything, I was thinking
>about trying to find something acrylic in the 10 to 20 gallon range. Would
>this be a good enviroment for goldfish? How about fancy goldfish or koi?
>What kind filtration system should I be looking at? I've heard that goldfish
>produce a lot of waste so I want to make sure I get a good filter in place.
>Is an undergravel filter adequate? How about one of those biowheel under the
>hood things? What kind of fish gravel should I be looking at? Should I get a
>sucker fish to put in there with them? I want to make sure I get a setup
>that can meet the needs of the fish and that they wont outgrow. Any
>information would be great thanks.
>

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Date: 03 Jun 2007 13:30:20
From: swarvegorilla
Subject: Re: First gold fish tank

read that pure gold website
should tell ya what ya need
go big tank, 2 filters

"newguy62497" <newguy62497@cox.net > wrote in message
news:2Ai8i.391427$7g3.208036@newsfe14.phx...
> Hi, I'm thinking about trying a tank with gold fish in it for the first
> time. I dont want to buy some gigantic aquarium or anything, I was
> thinking about trying to find something acrylic in the 10 to 20 gallon
> range. Would this be a good enviroment for goldfish? How about fancy
> goldfish or koi? What kind filtration system should I be looking at? I've
> heard that goldfish produce a lot of waste so I want to make sure I get a
> good filter in place. Is an undergravel filter adequate? How about one of
> those biowheel under the hood things? What kind of fish gravel should I be
> looking at? Should I get a sucker fish to put in there with them? I want
> to make sure I get a setup that can meet the needs of the fish and that
> they wont outgrow. Any information would be great thanks.
>

Date: 03 Jun 2007 08:24:24
From: newguy62497
Subject: Re: First gold fish tank

Thanks for all the information folks! I'm googling that website now to try
and find it. I didn't think I would need that big of a tank for goldfish.
I'm glad I asked before I bought something too small! Thanks!

"swarvegorilla" <fatcatfish@optusnet.com.au > wrote in message
news:466235bc$0$21505$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> read that pure gold website
> should tell ya what ya need
> go big tank, 2 filters
>
>
>
> "newguy62497" <newguy62497@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:2Ai8i.391427$7g3.208036@newsfe14.phx...
>> Hi, I'm thinking about trying a tank with gold fish in it for the first
>> time. I dont want to buy some gigantic aquarium or anything, I was
>> thinking about trying to find something acrylic in the 10 to 20 gallon
>> range. Would this be a good enviroment for goldfish? How about fancy
>> goldfish or koi? What kind filtration system should I be looking at? I've
>> heard that goldfish produce a lot of waste so I want to make sure I get a
>> good filter in place. Is an undergravel filter adequate? How about one of
>> those biowheel under the hood things? What kind of fish gravel should I
>> be looking at? Should I get a sucker fish to put in there with them? I
>> want to make sure I get a setup that can meet the needs of the fish and
>> that they wont outgrow. Any information would be great thanks.
>>
>
>

Date: 02 Jun 2007 13:57:18
From: Pondmeister
Subject: Re: First gold fish tank

Bigger is best with goldies. Some of the ornamentlas canbe done ok in
a decent sized tank, but make sure yu have a larger than normal filter
as they are messy compared to the tropical type fish......Defnately no
koi, unless in a month or two yu have apoace to put them. They
certainly are ot suited for aquarium confinement. Heck get 2 common
10 cent feeder comets, and when they outgrow it flush em and start
again.......thats what most folks do, but really, comets do best in a
large tank or outside and not over crowded, and cooler waters....
The small marble sized black moors or such do fair in a decent sized
tank, and personally I would go with a 29 gal minimum and they can be
hgad relatively cheap ready to go with filter etc, and once you decide
yu canalways upgrade the filter if its insufficient. As to what
filter, its all a personal choice but bigger is better just ilke with
the tank.....A small pair of moors(Marble sized or so) can easily
get 3 to 5 years of use out of a 29 gal tank until they get too the
pint of needing more room.

Have fun

.On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 11:22:53 -0700, "newguy62497"
<newguy62497@cox.net > wrote:

<< >>Hi, I'm thinking about trying a tank with gold fish in it for the first
<< >>time. I dont want to buy some gigantic aquarium or anything, I was thinking
<< >>about trying to find something acrylic in the 10 to 20 gallon range. Would
<< >>this be a good enviroment for goldfish? How about fancy goldfish or koi?
<< >>What kind filtration system should I be looking at? I've heard that goldfish
<< >>produce a lot of waste so I want to make sure I get a good filter in place.
<< >>Is an undergravel filter adequate? How about one of those biowheel under the
<< >>hood things? What kind of fish gravel should I be looking at? Should I get a
<< >>sucker fish to put in there with them? I want to make sure I get a setup
<< >>that can meet the needs of the fish and that they wont outgrow. Any
<< >>information would be great thanks.
<< >>

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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!