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Date: 23 Nov 2005 23:23:06
From: op910au
Subject: Brass fittings
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Just reposting the following in this forum, as no definite answer i
"ponds".
We have a small pond with 2 reasonable sized goldfish which has bee
established for some time. The pond itself is fibreglass I think with
waterfall feature using two fibreglass trays.
I would like to add to the waterfall feature by using a large brass o
more probably bronze tap, which is about 5 times larger than a commo
garden water tap. By directing the pump water through the tap an
cracking it open will give the appearance of a tap dripping water int
the existing trays.
My question is...will anything from the brass/bronze (eg copper, zin
or tin) affect the fish?
Thanks for any help,
Ro
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op910au
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Date: 24 Nov 2005 16:31:14
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Subject: Re: Brass fittings
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acidic conditions pH less than 7.0 are more likely to release metal ions into the
water. If the pH of your water is higher then I wouldnt worry. esp about copper.
zinc can cause problems but there are people use galvanized tanks with no problem.
once they been used for a while they are coated with algae. Ingrid
op910au <op910au.1yzavp@news.fishkeepingbanter.com > wrote:
>
>Just reposting the following in this forum, as no definite answer in
>"ponds".
>
>We have a small pond with 2 reasonable sized goldfish which has been
>established for some time. The pond itself is fibreglass I think with a
>waterfall feature using two fibreglass trays.
>
>I would like to add to the waterfall feature by using a large brass or
>more probably bronze tap, which is about 5 times larger than a common
>garden water tap. By directing the pump water through the tap and
>cracking it open will give the appearance of a tap dripping water into
>the existing trays.
>
>My question is...will anything from the brass/bronze (eg copper, zinc
>or tin) affect the fish?
>
>Thanks for any help,
>Rod
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Date: 24 Nov 2005 17:29:50
From: ~Roy
Subject: Re: Brass fittings
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Exactly.......the use of certain metals is a myth that just will not
die.......
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 16:31:14 GMT, dr-solo@wi.rr.xx.com wrote:
>===<>acidic conditions pH less than 7.0 are more likely to release metal ions into the
>===<>water. If the pH of your water is higher then I wouldnt worry. esp about copper.
>===<>zinc can cause problems but there are people use galvanized tanks with no problem.
>===<>once they been used for a while they are coated with algae. Ingrid
>===<>
>===<>op910au <op910au.1yzavp@news.fishkeepingbanter.com> wrote:
>===<>
>===<>>
>===<>>Just reposting the following in this forum, as no definite answer in
>===<>>"ponds".
>===<>>
>===<>>We have a small pond with 2 reasonable sized goldfish which has been
>===<>>established for some time. The pond itself is fibreglass I think with a
>===<>>waterfall feature using two fibreglass trays.
>===<>>
>===<>>I would like to add to the waterfall feature by using a large brass or
>===<>>more probably bronze tap, which is about 5 times larger than a common
>===<>>garden water tap. By directing the pump water through the tap and
>===<>>cracking it open will give the appearance of a tap dripping water into
>===<>>the existing trays.
>===<>>
>===<>>My question is...will anything from the brass/bronze (eg copper, zinc
>===<>>or tin) affect the fish?
>===<>>
>===<>>Thanks for any help,
>===<>>Rod
>===<>
>===<>
>===<>
>===<>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>===<>List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List at
>===<>http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/
>===<>sign up: http://list.lovemyoldhome.com/web/wa.cgi?REPORT&z=3
>===<>www.drsolo.com
>===<>Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
>===<>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>===<>I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
>===<>compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for
>===<>any of the recommendations I make.
>===<>AND I DID NOT AUTHORIZE ADS AT THE OLD PUREGOLD SITE
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This is worth repeating for benefit of all newbies!
Jo Ann asked Dr. Solo to remind people that while she has retired from selling GF (and sold
the business to Ken Fischer http://dandyorandas.com/) she has NOT retired from
helping people with sick GF and koi FOR FREE. 251-649-4790 phoning is best for
diagnosis. but, can try email put "help sick fish" in subject. Get your fish at Dandy Orandas
Dandy Orandas Dandy Orandas........you guys got that DANDY ORANDAS
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Date: 23 Nov 2005 23:48:30
From: Koi-lo
Subject: Re: Brass fittings
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"op910au" <op910au.1yzavp@news.fishkeepingbanter.com > wrote in message
news:op910au.1yzavp@news.fishkeepingbanter.com...
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> Just reposting the following in this forum, as no definite answer in
> "ponds".
>
> We have a small pond with 2 reasonable sized goldfish which has been
> established for some time. The pond itself is fibreglass I think with a
> waterfall feature using two fibreglass trays.
>
> I would like to add to the waterfall feature by using a large brass or
> more probably bronze tap, which is about 5 times larger than a common
> garden water tap. By directing the pump water through the tap and
> cracking it open will give the appearance of a tap dripping water into
> the existing trays.
$$ They used to use brass on air valves for fishtanks but have switched to
plastic. You can call the Fish and Wildlife Service or the Dept. of
Agriculture if you can't get the information online. They will know who you
can call for the correct answer.
> My question is...will anything from the brass/bronze (eg copper, zinc
> or tin) affect the fish?
$$ I would avoid all metals except stainless steel until you get a definite
reply from someone who knows.
> Thanks for any help,
> Rod
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Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastadaisy
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Date: 24 Nov 2005 14:16:02
From: ~Roy
Subject: Re: Brass fittings
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Will not hurt a thing.....Cool and cold water does not present as much
of a problem with leaching of any metals. Same thing with your typical
older copper pipe plumbing and lead solder. It was only a concern with
the lead in the hot water line connections, as it caused it to leach
out........not a problem with cold water and fish.Brass and bronze are
safe to use in the amounts that would be encountered in a pond without
a problem.....Hell they even sell a top brand name pump with a brass
volute and impeller for koi ponds. Granted there are many many alloys
of brass and bronze, but it shuld not present a problem. Once it gets
covered in the typical patina its basically sealed, and then presents
an even lesser problem not that any exists to begin with.
Don't assume because its ,arked Stainless steel its perfectly safe, as
there is a ton of stainless steel alloys in use out there and not all
are particularly suited for pond use either.......
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 23:48:30 -0600, "Koi-lo" <invalid@invalid.invalid >
posted a bunch of assumptions of no value.
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This is worth repeating for benefit of all newbies!
Jo Ann asked Dr. Solo to remind people that while she has retired from selling GF (and sold
the business to Ken Fischer http://dandyorandas.com/) she has NOT retired from
helping people with sick GF and koi FOR FREE. 251-649-4790 phoning is best for
diagnosis. but, can try email put "help sick fish" in subject. Get your fish at Dandy Orandas
Dandy Orandas Dandy Orandas........you guys got that DANDY ORANDAS
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Date: 27 Nov 2005 06:03:34
From: Cindy
Subject: Re: Brass fittings
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> This is worth repeating for benefit of all newbies!
> Jo Ann asked Dr. Solo to remind people that while she has retired
> from selling GF (and sold the business to Ken Fischer
> http://dandyorandas.com/) she has NOT retired from
> helping people with sick GF and koi FOR FREE. 251-649-4790 phoning
> is best for
> diagnosis. but, can try email put "help sick fish" in subject. Get
> your fish at Dandy Orandas Dandy Orandas Dandy Orandas........you
> guys got that DANDY ORANDAS
Newbie here, and thank you for the link! Wow, I never knew goldfish could
be so beautiful! OR so expensive....
:)
Cindy
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Date: 27 Nov 2005 00:40:41
From: Koi-lo
Subject: Re: Brass fittings
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"Cindy" <cinshep@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:W_bif.25105$Zv5.12941@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
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> Newbie here, and thank you for the link! Wow, I never knew goldfish could
> be so beautiful! OR so expensive....
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I don't know where you live but the Petst stores here in TN have the best
goldfish I've ever seen at affordable prices. If you have one of these
stores near you drop in and check out the large selection of goldfish they
carry.
And no, I don't work for them or own stock in the company. :-) I seldom
buy fish as I raise my own but when I do I get 90% from these stores.
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Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastadaisy
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