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Date: 11 Feb 2007 01:40:23
From: Mariachi
Subject: How old is my angle fish?
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Can anyone tell me how old my angel fish are if they are 2 inches from mouth to tail?
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Date: 18 Feb 2007 09:32:42
From: Tynk
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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On Feb 18, 5:24?am, "iachi" <far...@gmail.com > wrote: > Thanks for your answers - I will invest in some frozen brine shrimp > next time I go to the fish shop... > > The 4 angels i've got are in a 3 foot tank - I planned on taking the 2 > back after they have paired up,...I"ve had them since november..and > they have definatly grown!! iachi.... Give them time too. Last year I got a bunch of quarter sized Pearlscale Angels. I've had them all for many months without any pairing off. Well....I thought I had a possible pair but the female died suddenly, so nothing ever came of it. I recently added a new gold/goldble pearlscale cross to the mix and since doing so, there has been a flurry of action. Sometimes it just takes something you'd never think of to get things moving. Just last night I saw my Gold pearlscale and a Silver pearlscale that were bought together last year....only last night they decided to pair off and start cleaning the intake tube to the canister filter. 2 hours later they were spawning. These 2 fish had never shown any liking for one another in close to a year, and then all of a sudden they pair off and spawn the same day. I am healing from foot surgery and cannot walk on one foot at all, so I couldn't switch around tanks to put the pair in before they spawned. I knew during the night the Bushynosed Pleco would get the eggs, and he did. However, I wasn't prepared for them to do this so I accepted the loss of their first batch. They should be good to go again in 2 weeks, so I have plenty of time to get my 6 yr old male Betta out of the tank I plan on using for this pair. I also have to get the gravel out and switch to a spong filter instead of the HOB filter. The old Betta isn't going to appreciate getting moved to a 2 1/2g tank, but he can sulk and give me the pout all he wants, hehe. Oh...I have pics of the pair spawning too. If you would like me to email a few to you, email me asking for them. Pay no attention to the body shape of the male though, as he has more a female's body. He's a perfect example of why it's not always trustworthy to try and sex angels via body shape. Just remember to ask me via email though.
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Date: 18 Feb 2007 03:24:12
From: Mariachi
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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Thanks for your answers - I will invest in some frozen brine shrimp next time I go to the fish shop... The 4 angels i've got are in a 3 foot tank - I planned on taking the 2 back after they have paired up,...I"ve had them since november..and they have definatly grown!!
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Date: 16 Feb 2007 08:06:10
From: Tynk
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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On Feb 15, 5:15?am, "iachi" <far...@gmail.com > wrote: > Thank you for your input. > > The reason for my orginal question is why my angels have not paired > yet. I thought maybe they were too young...but from what I have read > 2" body *can* be up to a year old - depending on conditions.....so > lets just say they are of breeding age.....what factors could be > causing them *not* to pair up...what can I do to help them > decide....providing of course I have male and female fish..(i have 4, > bought on 2 sepearte occations..).. > > I am feeding frozen blood worms, beefheart and several types of flake > and pellet food > > > > > > > There are many factors that will dictate a fish's growth. > > I have specialized in both Bettas and Angelfish for close to 30 yrs. > > I've also had many batches of fry. > > When we moved to the house we're in now I found out what hard water > > will do to an Angelfish's growth. > > STUNT it badly. I had year old fish that looks like dime to quater > > sized babies. > > They should have had a body size of close to a grapefruit by then. > > They had lovely clean water, quality foods, a varied diet and lovely > > warm water. Still, they didn't grow. > > All because of hard water. Once a fish's growth is stunted, they don't > > grow normally either if put into better conditions. > > To say a fish is *this old* based only on it's size and without any > > other information is irresponsible. > > To do so *after* the appropriate info is gathered is giving a > > "guesstimate". > > When I spawn Angels I have to cut the water with RO water just to get > > the fry to grow. Same with Bettas too. > > However, the Angels that are born and raised in this hard water will > > grow better than fry born into soft, acidic water. > > I am not trying to confuse the original poster more, just adding > > another variable to what dictates a fish's growth.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Hi there. Good choices on foods.....however, feed the beefheart sparingly. A little bit is a good thing. I would also add frozen Brine Shrimp to your feeding routine. I prefer to feed a frozen food and a staple dry food every day. I feed one of them in the morning and the other food gets fed at night. I usually do the frozen in the evening, but that's just a habit of mine. As for why they are not pairing off....they may be too young still. You haven't mentioned how long you have had these quarter to fifty cent piece sized fish. It's also possible that you have all the same sex. Yes...it does happen. Last year I bought a bunch of Pearlscale youngsters and all but one were male! You also have to know that Angelfish don't always care for the ones you have picked out for them. They simply may not fancy each other and not care to pair up. I've had this happen many times over the years. The tank may be too small for their liking, etc. I know you're probably tired of hearing...too many vairables, but just like growth...pairing off angels isn't always as simple as having males and females in the same tank. Don't forget to answer: What size tank are they are in? How long have you had them?
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Date: 15 Feb 2007 03:15:46
From: Mariachi
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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Thank you for your input. The reason for my orginal question is why my angels have not paired yet. I thought maybe they were too young...but from what I have read 2" body *can* be up to a year old - depending on conditions.....so lets just say they are of breeding age.....what factors could be causing them *not* to pair up...what can I do to help them decide....providing of course I have male and female fish..(i have 4, bought on 2 sepearte occations..).. I am feeding frozen blood worms, beefheart and several types of flake and pellet food > > There are many factors that will dictate a fish's growth. > I have specialized in both Bettas and Angelfish for close to 30 yrs. > I've also had many batches of fry. > When we moved to the house we're in now I found out what hard water > will do to an Angelfish's growth. > STUNT it badly. I had year old fish that looks like dime to quater > sized babies. > They should have had a body size of close to a grapefruit by then. > They had lovely clean water, quality foods, a varied diet and lovely > warm water. Still, they didn't grow. > All because of hard water. Once a fish's growth is stunted, they don't > grow normally either if put into better conditions. > To say a fish is *this old* based only on it's size and without any > other information is irresponsible. > To do so *after* the appropriate info is gathered is giving a > "guesstimate". > When I spawn Angels I have to cut the water with RO water just to get > the fry to grow. Same with Bettas too. > However, the Angels that are born and raised in this hard water will > grow better than fry born into soft, acidic water. > I am not trying to confuse the original poster more, just adding > another variable to what dictates a fish's growth.
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Date: 17 Feb 2007 01:59:24
From: Tristan
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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Well I have youy beat in the years department sucker and folks are still responding to me every day, and I am not counting my socks either. If it was not for folks trying to get me to see the light or my socks I wuld not have any replies....face it. Oh, I claim those socks as dependants on my income tax.... hahahahaha Sponsored in part by: The House of Roy "Tristan" Hauer© The Roy Hauer Institute of Usenet Socks Anonymity® and Sock Puppetry. The Committee to Take Back our USENET Groups! Hauer's Home for Orphaned Socks LLC. Supporters of Your Local Newsgroups (SLN, Ltd.) The Roy Hauer AKA Tristan Hauer Plonk Foundation© Just say no to Roy "Tristan" Hauer! Its not all about Roy "Tristan" Hauer, Trust me on that! Send Roy Tristan Hauer an Email.....tell him how you realy feel! Send Roy "Tristan" Hauer's ISP and NNTP aan Abuse report, let them know how you feel too. -= Have LoneGunman, Will Travel. =- "iachi" <farenn@gmail.com > wrote in message news:1171538146.175421.60220@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Thank you for your input. > > The reason for my orginal question is why my angels have not paired > yet. I thought maybe they were too young...but from what I have read > 2" body *can* be up to a year old - depending on conditions.....so > lets just say they are of breeding age.....what factors could be > causing them *not* to pair up...what can I do to help them > decide....providing of course I have male and female fish..(i have 4, > bought on 2 sepearte occations..).. > > I am feeding frozen blood worms, beefheart and several types of flake > and pellet food > > > > There are many factors that will dictate a fish's growth. > > I have specialized in both Bettas and Angelfish for close to 30 yrs. > > I've also had many batches of fry. > > When we moved to the house we're in now I found out what hard water > > will do to an Angelfish's growth. > > STUNT it badly. I had year old fish that looks like dime to quater > > sized babies. > > They should have had a body size of close to a grapefruit by then. > > They had lovely clean water, quality foods, a varied diet and lovely > > warm water. Still, they didn't grow. > > All because of hard water. Once a fish's growth is stunted, they don't > > grow normally either if put into better conditions. > > To say a fish is *this old* based only on it's size and without any > > other information is irresponsible. > > To do so *after* the appropriate info is gathered is giving a > > "guesstimate". > > When I spawn Angels I have to cut the water with RO water just to get > > the fry to grow. Same with Bettas too. > > However, the Angels that are born and raised in this hard water will > > grow better than fry born into soft, acidic water. > > I am not trying to confuse the original poster more, just adding > > another variable to what dictates a fish's growth. > >
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Date: 16 Feb 2007 20:05:39
From: Nebulous
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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"iachi" <farenn@gmail.com > wrote in message news:1171538146.175421.60220@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Thank you for your input. > > The reason for my orginal question is why my angels have not paired > yet. I thought maybe they were too young...but from what I have read > 2" body *can* be up to a year old - depending on conditions.....so > lets just say they are of breeding age.....what factors could be > causing them *not* to pair up...what can I do to help them > decide....providing of course I have male and female fish..(i have 4, > bought on 2 sepearte occations..).. > > I am feeding frozen blood worms, beefheart and several types of flake > and pellet food >> >> There are many factors that will dictate a fish's growth. >> I have specialized in both Bettas and Angelfish for close to 30 yrs. >> I've also had many batches of fry. >> When we moved to the house we're in now I found out what hard water >> will do to an Angelfish's growth. >> STUNT it badly. I had year old fish that looks like dime to quater >> sized babies. >> They should have had a body size of close to a grapefruit by then. >> They had lovely clean water, quality foods, a varied diet and lovely >> warm water. Still, they didn't grow. >> All because of hard water. Once a fish's growth is stunted, they don't >> grow normally either if put into better conditions. >> To say a fish is *this old* based only on it's size and without any >> other information is irresponsible. >> To do so *after* the appropriate info is gathered is giving a >> "guesstimate". >> When I spawn Angels I have to cut the water with RO water just to get >> the fry to grow. Same with Bettas too. >> However, the Angels that are born and raised in this hard water will >> grow better than fry born into soft, acidic water. >> I am not trying to confuse the original poster more, just adding >> another variable to what dictates a fish's growth. Hi folks I have just returned to fish-keeping after a break of about 16 years and have always had a soft spot for angels. I bought a 48x18x18 tank at Christmas, set it up and ran it with some tiger barbs and then acquired an Angel about 3 weeks ago. Anyway I swear he has grown half an inch in 3 weeks. He was just over an inch when I got him and he is now over one and a half inches. My children claim they see him growing every day! There are some real positives for him. My water is naturally soft, PH from the tap is around 7, but in the tank it has settled at 6.4. The tank has a big external filter, Ammonia and Nitrite are always 0 and it is lightly stocked. I feed twice a day, once on flakes and once on frozen food. I was concerned about getting him as I was warned tiger barbs could nip his fins, but he is clearly the boss. At feeding time he chases the barbs all over the place. Neb
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Date: 17 Feb 2007 01:56:41
From: Tristan
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 07:08:40
From: Tynk
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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On Feb 13, 7:53?pm, Gill Passman <gillnospa...@gillsfish.co.uk > wrote: > Well I bought some Angel juvs around 6 months ago and they are already > going on 3" without the tails......my SIL had to trade in some dinky > angels she bought (around 1/2" a year ago) as they were 4-5 inches > without the tail......I guess it is a matter of what conditions they are > kept under....and I'm not saying here that angels that don't have such > rapid growth are kept in bad conditions - just that mine are in a 6 foot > tank so perhaps grow quicker > > Gill There are many factors that will dictate a fish's growth. I have specialized in both Bettas and Angelfish for close to 30 yrs. I've also had many batches of fry. When we moved to the house we're in now I found out what hard water will do to an Angelfish's growth. STUNT it badly. I had year old fish that looks like dime to quater sized babies. They should have had a body size of close to a grapefruit by then. They had lovely clean water, quality foods, a varied diet and lovely warm water. Still, they didn't grow. All because of hard water. Once a fish's growth is stunted, they don't grow normally either if put into better conditions. To say a fish is *this old* based only on it's size and without any other information is irresponsible. To do so *after* the appropriate info is gathered is giving a "guesstimate". When I spawn Angels I have to cut the water with RO water just to get the fry to grow. Same with Bettas too. However, the Angels that are born and raised in this hard water will grow better than fry born into soft, acidic water. I am not trying to confuse the original poster more, just adding another variable to what dictates a fish's growth.
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 10:03:32
From: Tristan
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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Nope, CArol Gulley can tell you the exact age of a fish just by a description........She is one st fish keeper. On 14 Feb 2007 07:08:40 -0800, "Tynk" <TYNK7@aol.com > wrote: << >>On Feb 13, 7:53?pm, Gill Passman <gillnospa...@gillsfish.co.uk> wrote: << >>> Well I bought some Angel juvs around 6 months ago and they are already << >>> going on 3" without the tails......my SIL had to trade in some dinky << >>> angels she bought (around 1/2" a year ago) as they were 4-5 inches << >>> without the tail......I guess it is a matter of what conditions they are << >>> kept under....and I'm not saying here that angels that don't have such << >>> rapid growth are kept in bad conditions - just that mine are in a 6 foot << >>> tank so perhaps grow quicker << >>> << >>> Gill << >> << >>There are many factors that will dictate a fish's growth. << >>I have specialized in both Bettas and Angelfish for close to 30 yrs. << >>I've also had many batches of fry. << >>When we moved to the house we're in now I found out what hard water << >>will do to an Angelfish's growth. << >>STUNT it badly. I had year old fish that looks like dime to quater << >>sized babies. << >>They should have had a body size of close to a grapefruit by then. << >>They had lovely clean water, quality foods, a varied diet and lovely << >>warm water. Still, they didn't grow. << >>All because of hard water. Once a fish's growth is stunted, they don't << >>grow normally either if put into better conditions. << >>To say a fish is *this old* based only on it's size and without any << >>other information is irresponsible. << >>To do so *after* the appropriate info is gathered is giving a << >>"guesstimate". << >>When I spawn Angels I have to cut the water with RO water just to get << >>the fry to grow. Same with Bettas too. << >>However, the Angels that are born and raised in this hard water will << >>grow better than fry born into soft, acidic water. << >>I am not trying to confuse the original poster more, just adding << >>another variable to what dictates a fish's growth. ------- I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!
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Date: 18 Feb 2007 00:18:22
From: Truth Seeker
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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Roy "Tristan" Hauer NET-STALKER of old grannies <tristansaintjohn@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:6lc6t29uu957472siuphm4qu0d69g5itp0@4ax.com... > > > Nope, CArol Gulley can tell you the exact age of a fish just by a > description........She is one st fish keeper. [REJECTION] = Repetitious Content. Slander. Threats. Disturbance of the peace. Harassment. Stalking. Further attempts to intrude your hate filled messages will result in sumy deletion of all your posts, unread, for a period of one week. Proving a negative is fallacious argument. Provide proof of all your fallacious allegations. Sponsored in part by: The House of Roy "Tristan" Hauer© The Roy Hauer Institute of Usenet Socks, Impersonators and Stalkers Anonymity® and Sock Puppetry. The Committee to Take Back our USENET Groups! Hauer's Home for Orphaned Socks LLC. Supporters of Your Local Newsgroups (SLN, Ltd.) The Roy Hauer AKA Tristan Hauer Plonk Foundation© Just say no to Roy "Tristan" Hauer! Its not all about Roy "Tristan" Hauer, Trust me on that! Send Roy Tristan Hauer an Email.....tell him how you realy feel! Send Roy "Tristan" Hauer's ISP and NNTP aan Abuse report, let them know how you feel too. > > On 14 Feb 2007 07:08:40 -0800, "Tynk" <TYNK7@aol.com> wrote: > > <<>>On Feb 13, 7:53?pm, Gill Passman <gillnospa...@gillsfish.co.uk> wrote: > <<>>> Well I bought some Angel juvs around 6 months ago and they are already > <<>>> going on 3" without the tails......my SIL had to trade in some dinky > <<>>> angels she bought (around 1/2" a year ago) as they were 4-5 inches > <<>>> without the tail......I guess it is a matter of what conditions they are > <<>>> kept under....and I'm not saying here that angels that don't have such > <<>>> rapid growth are kept in bad conditions - just that mine are in a 6 foot > <<>>> tank so perhaps grow quicker > <<>>> > <<>>> Gill > <<>> > <<>>There are many factors that will dictate a fish's growth. > <<>>I have specialized in both Bettas and Angelfish for close to 30 yrs. > <<>>I've also had many batches of fry. > <<>>When we moved to the house we're in now I found out what hard water > <<>>will do to an Angelfish's growth. > <<>>STUNT it badly. I had year old fish that looks like dime to quater > <<>>sized babies. > <<>>They should have had a body size of close to a grapefruit by then. > <<>>They had lovely clean water, quality foods, a varied diet and lovely > <<>>warm water. Still, they didn't grow. > <<>>All because of hard water. Once a fish's growth is stunted, they don't > <<>>grow normally either if put into better conditions. > <<>>To say a fish is *this old* based only on it's size and without any > <<>>other information is irresponsible. > <<>>To do so *after* the appropriate info is gathered is giving a > <<>>"guesstimate". > <<>>When I spawn Angels I have to cut the water with RO water just to get > <<>>the fry to grow. Same with Bettas too. > <<>>However, the Angels that are born and raised in this hard water will > <<>>grow better than fry born into soft, acidic water. > <<>>I am not trying to confuse the original poster more, just adding > <<>>another variable to what dictates a fish's growth. > > > > ------- > I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!
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Date: 13 Feb 2007 05:51:26
From: spiral_72
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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Yea just the body. It all depends. if you have a mutant, it might only be a week old, but it's pretty safe to say it's about 1yr old. Mine's slightly bigger that that at about 1.5yrs old. Of course at some point they stop growing. I'm not sure how long they are epected to live under good conditions........ depending of course. Congrads on the angel. They're pretty amazing huh?
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 01:53:43
From: Gill Passman
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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Well I bought some Angel juvs around 6 months ago and they are already going on 3" without the tails......my SIL had to trade in some dinky angels she bought (around 1/2" a year ago) as they were 4-5 inches without the tail......I guess it is a matter of what conditions they are kept under....and I'm not saying here that angels that don't have such rapid growth are kept in bad conditions - just that mine are in a 6 foot tank so perhaps grow quicker Gill
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Date: 12 Feb 2007 14:15:12
From: Mariachi
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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rings...lol yea it's 2 inches including the tail. So normal angelfish measurement is just the body huh?
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Date: 12 Feb 2007 16:25:02
From: Tristan
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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Yes, fins are not included when referring to an angel fishs size. The most common reference is coin size as I mentioned before. If some one tells you its such and such old, they are blowing smoke up your butt, s as there is just so many variables, and even one brand of food compared to another is enough to make a difference as is good food and all in the same spawn and there can be considerable differences... And I am serious, you can count rings on a fishes scale and determine its age fairly reliable, however most times a fish loses a scale its got a healt problem or its dead, but it is possible to knock out a fish and do a scope on its scale, but is there really a dire need to kno9w exact age? I fyur looking for a fish to breed, its more than likely alerady of suitable size to breed, as most of quarter or larger are well within the range for breeding. On 12 Feb 2007 14:15:12 -0800, "iachi" <farenn@gmail.com > wrote: << >>rings...lol << >> << >>yea it's 2 inches including the tail. So normal angelfish measurement << >>is just the body huh? Sponsored in part by: The House of Carol Gulley© The Carol Gulley Institute of Usenet Socks Anonymity® and Sock Puppetry. The Committee to Take Back our USENET Groups! Gulleys Home for Orphaned Socks LLC. Supporters of Your Local Newsgroups (SLN, Ltd.) The Carol AKA Zebulon Gulley Plonk Foundation© Just say no to CArol Gulley! Its not all about Carol Gulley, Trust me on that! Send Carol an Email.....tell her how you realy feel! Send CArols ISP and NNTP aan Abuse report, let them know how you feel too. -= Have LoneGunman, Will Travel. =-
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Date: 12 Feb 2007 11:57:31
From: spiral_72
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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Cut it in half and count the rings!
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 15:44:59
From: Tristan
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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Roy "Tristan" Hauer NET STALKER of old ladies and cripples <tristansaintjohn@yahoo.com > trolled us with this same old bullshit in message news:u346t29ue0gcl6h14hi4gn3vl3hrtjf0kt@4ax.com... > Truth be known. I "own" the bitch! Setting here right now looking at a > bill of sale ked Paid in Full...for 1 Bitch...........oh wait maybe > that was the one dog I bought! But I still own CArol with or without a > bill of sal;e. I say something , anyhting and she jumps through those > hoops and rings those bells just l ike a trained animal is taught to > perform in a circus. Her ex husbands taught her well! "spiral_72" <spiral_72@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1171310251.013284.239120@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > Cut it in half and count the rings! >
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Date: 12 Feb 2007 10:54:36
From: Tristan
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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"iachi" <farenn@gmail.com > wrote in message news:1171186823.267634.94450@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Can anyone tell me how old my angel fish are if they are 2 inches from > mouth to tail? > Your having a bad time of it target. You tell tooo many lies and cannot keep up with them. The multitude of lies bites you every time you turn around. Trust me on this, its proven that the truth is so much more easier to keep up with than lies are.. Might I suggest "you" give it a try, you may just like it. Oh, do you claim those socks as dependants on you income tax? hahahahaha Sponsored in part by: The House of Roy "Tristan" Hauer© The Roy Hauer Institute of Usenet Socks Anonymity® and Sock Puppetry. The Committee to Take Back our USENET Groups! Hauer's Home for Orphaned Socks LLC. Supporters of Your Local Newsgroups (SLN, Ltd.) The Roy Hauer AKA Tristan Hauer Plonk Foundation© Just say no to Roy "Tristan" Hauer! Its not all about Roy "Tristan" Hauer, Trust me on that! Send Roy Tristan Hauer an Email.....tell him how you realy feel! Send Roy "Tristan" Hauer's ISP and NNTP aan Abuse report, let them know how you feel too. -= Have LoneGunman, Will Travel. =-
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Date: 12 Feb 2007 01:44:38
From: Mariachi
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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erm......so we're saying it's less than 12 months? is it more or less than 6 months?
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 15:44:47
From: Tristan
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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Roy "Tristan" Hauer NET STALKER of old ladies and cripples <tristansaintjohn@yahoo.com > trolled us with this same old bullshit in message news:u346t29ue0gcl6h14hi4gn3vl3hrtjf0kt@4ax.com... > Truth be known. I "own" the bitch! Setting here right now looking at a > bill of sale ked Paid in Full...for 1 Bitch...........oh wait maybe > that was the one dog I bought! But I still own CArol with or without a > bill of sal;e. I say something , anyhting and she jumps through those > hoops and rings those bells just l ike a trained animal is taught to > perform in a circus. Her ex husbands taught her well! "iachi" <farenn@gmail.com > wrote in message news:1171273477.993834.67630@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > erm......so we're saying it's less than 12 months? is it more or less > than 6 months? >
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Date: 12 Feb 2007 12:49:51
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Z=EBbulon?=
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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"iachi" <farenn@gmail.com > wrote in message news:1171273477.993834.67630@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > erm......so we're saying it's less than 12 months? is it more or less > than 6 months? ======================== At 2" it's surely older than 6 months. Are you INCLUDING the tail? They grow at different rates of speed even under the same conditions. The better the conditions and food, the better the rate of growth. -- ZB.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }<((((* > ~~~ }<{{{{(ö> ~~~~ }<((((({*>
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Date: 12 Feb 2007 13:17:05
From: Tristan
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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When sizing angle fish the fins are not included, and they generally are sized in accordance with coin sizes.dime, nnickle, quarter, half dollar etc etc...Odds are its more than 12 months unless it has had high quality food and lots of it poured to it, and its from good stock, but anyone that can claim they can tellthe age of a fish by size is full of it, and thats what Zebulon aka Carol Gulley thinks she can do....If you just have to know exactly, put a scale under a microscope and count the rings/ ridges just like a tree...or if your lucky enough like CArol Gulley she just asks her fish how old they are, she has em all trained like that, being the professional breeder that she is....or at least that what she would like to have you believe...... There is just too many variables that affect size bogth during the time it is an egg as well as a fry, to fingerling to juvi to adjust hood that can affect size to age corelation.... On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 12:49:51 -0600, Zëbulon <invalid@mailinator.com > wrote: << >> << >>"iachi" <farenn@gmail.com> wrote in message << >>news:1171273477.993834.67630@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... << >>> erm......so we're saying it's less than 12 months? is it more or less << >>> than 6 months? << >>======================== << >>At 2" it's surely older than 6 months. Are you INCLUDING the tail? They grow << >>at different rates of speed even under the same conditions. The better the << >>conditions and food, the better the rate of growth. Sponsored in part by: The House of Carol Gulley© The Carol Gulley Institute of Usenet Socks Anonymity® and Sock Puppetry. The Committee to Take Back our USENET Groups! Gulleys Home for Orphaned Socks LLC. Supporters of Your Local Newsgroups (SLN, Ltd.) The Carol AKA Zebulon Gulley Plonk Foundation© Just say no to CArol Gulley! Its not all about Carol Gulley, Trust me on that! Send Carol an Email.....tell her how you realy feel! Send CArols ISP and NNTP aan Abuse report, let them know how you feel too. -= Have LoneGunman, Will Travel. =-
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Date: 18 Feb 2007 00:16:57
From: Truth Seeker
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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"Tristan" <tristansaintjohn@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:60f1t2lf6vi1rnalnk7tf46tk1udl084ht@4ax.com... > When sizing angle fish the fins are not included, and they generally > are sized in accordance with coin sizes.dime, nnickle, quarter, half > dollar etc etc...Odds are its more than 12 months unless it has had > high quality food and lots of it poured to it, and its from good > stock, but anyone that can claim they can tellthe age of a fish by > size is full of it, and thats what Zebulon aka Carol Gulley [REJECTION] = Repetitious Content. Slander. Threats. Disturbance of the peace. Harassment. Stalking. Further attempts to intrude your hate filled messages will result in sumy deletion of all your posts, unread, for a period of one week. Proving a negative is fallacious argument. Provide proof of all your fallacious allegations. thinks she > can do....If you just have to know exactly, put a scale under a > microscope and count the rings/ ridges just like a tree...or if your > lucky enough like CArol Gulley she just asks her fish how old they > are, she has em all trained like that, being the professional breeder > that she is....or at least that what she would like to have you > believe...... [REJECTION] = Spurious Conjecture. Truth is the ultimate defense against specious argument. > > There is just too many variables that affect size bogth during the > time it is an egg as well as a fry, to fingerling to juvi to adjust > hood that can affect size to age corelation.... [REJECTION] = Spurious Conjecture. Truth is the ultimate defense against specious argument. Sponsored in part by: The House of Roy "Tristan" Hauer© The Roy Hauer Institute of Usenet Socks and Stalkers Anonymity® and Sock Puppetry. The Committee to Take Back our USENET Groups! Hauer's Home for Orphaned Socks LLC. Supporters of Your Local Newsgroups (SLN, Ltd.) The Roy Hauer AKA Tristan Hauer Plonk Foundation© Just say no to Roy "Tristan" Hauer! Its not all about Roy "Tristan" Hauer, Trust me on that! Send Roy Tristan Hauer an Email.....tell him how you realy feel! Send Roy "Tristan" Hauer's ISP and NNTP aan Abuse report, let them know how you feel too.
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Date: 12 Feb 2007 10:54:59
From: Tristan
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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"iachi" <farenn@gmail.com > wrote in message news:1171273477.993834.67630@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > erm......so we're saying it's less than 12 months? is it more or less > than 6 months? > Your having a bad time of it target. You tell tooo many lies and cannot keep up with them. The multitude of lies bites you every time you turn around. Trust me on this, its proven that the truth is so much more easier to keep up with than lies are.. Might I suggest "you" give it a try, you may just like it. Oh, do you claim those socks as dependants on you income tax? hahahahaha Sponsored in part by: The House of Roy "Tristan" Hauer© The Roy Hauer Institute of Usenet Socks Anonymity® and Sock Puppetry. The Committee to Take Back our USENET Groups! Hauer's Home for Orphaned Socks LLC. Supporters of Your Local Newsgroups (SLN, Ltd.) The Roy Hauer AKA Tristan Hauer Plonk Foundation© Just say no to Roy "Tristan" Hauer! Its not all about Roy "Tristan" Hauer, Trust me on that! Send Roy Tristan Hauer an Email.....tell him how you realy feel! Send Roy "Tristan" Hauer's ISP and NNTP aan Abuse report, let them know how you feel too. -= Have LoneGunman, Will Travel. =-
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Date: 11 Feb 2007 09:36:03
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Z=EBbulon?=
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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"iachi" <farenn@gmail.com > wrote in message news:1171186823.267634.94450@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Can anyone tell me how old my angel fish are if they are 2 inches from > mouth to tail? ===================== It's hard to go by that since they grow at different rates according to water quality and temperature, and how and what they're fed. They're probably less than a year old given average conditions. -- ZB.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }<((((* > ~~~ }<{{{{(ö> ~~~~ }<((((({*>
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Date: 11 Feb 2007 14:02:18
From: Tristan
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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If I call you a liar are you gonna once again trash the reef group CArol? And once again your dead wrong on the age! n Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:36:03 -0600, Zëbulon <invalid@mailinator.com > wrote: << >> << >>"iachi" <farenn@gmail.com> wrote in message << >>news:1171186823.267634.94450@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... << >>> Can anyone tell me how old my angel fish are if they are 2 inches from << >>> mouth to tail? << >>===================== << >>It's hard to go by that since they grow at different rates according to << >>water quality and temperature, and how and what they're fed. They're << >>probably less than a year old given average conditions. Sponsored in part by: The House of Carol Gulley© The Carol Gulley Institute of Usenet Socks Anonymity® and Sock Puppetry. The Committee to Take Back our USENET Groups! Gulleys Home for Orphaned Socks LLC. Supporters of Your Local Newsgroups (SLN, Ltd.) The Carol AKA Zebulon Gulley Plonk Foundation© Just say no to CArol Gulley! Its not all about Carol Gulley, Trust me on that! Send Carol an Email.....tell her how you realy feel! Send CArols ISP and NNTP aan Abuse report, let them know how you feel too. -= Have LoneGunman, Will Travel. =-
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Date: 18 Feb 2007 00:14:46
From: Truth Seeker
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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"Tristan" <tristansaintjohn@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:bgtus2ln4tjjbjjsb5udkfn247vjdsk7jr@4ax.com... > If I call you a liar are you gonna once again trash the reef group > CArol? And once again your dead wrong on the age! [REJECTION] = Repetitious Content. Slander. Threats. Disturbance of the peace. Harassment. Stalking. Further attempts to intrude your hate filled messages will result in sumy deletion of all your posts, unread, for a period of one week. Proving a negative is fallacious argument. Provide proof of all your fallacious allegations. > > > n Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:36:03 -0600, Zëbulon <invalid@mailinator.com> > wrote: > > <<>> > <<>>"iachi" <farenn@gmail.com> wrote in message > <<>>news:1171186823.267634.94450@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > <<>>> Can anyone tell me how old my angel fish are if they are 2 inches from > <<>>> mouth to tail? > <<>>===================== > <<>>It's hard to go by that since they grow at different rates according to > <<>>water quality and temperature, and how and what they're fed. They're > <<>>probably less than a year old given average conditions. > > Sponsored in part by: > The House of Carol Gulley© > The Carol Gulley Institute of Usenet Socks > Anonymity® and Sock Puppetry. > The Committee to Take Back our USENET Groups! > Gulleys Home for Orphaned Socks LLC. > Supporters of Your Local Newsgroups (SLN, Ltd.) > The Carol AKA Zebulon Gulley Plonk Foundation© > Just say no to CArol Gulley! > Its not all about Carol Gulley, Trust me on that! > Send Carol an Email.....tell her how you realy feel! > Send CArols ISP and NNTP aan Abuse report, > let them know how you feel too. > > > > -= Have LoneGunman, Will Travel. =-
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Date: 11 Feb 2007 09:40:31
From: Tristan
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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I doubt that carol, Odds are its more than 1 year...wanna guess again carol? Keep on posting and maybe someday you may get something right On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:36:03 -0600, Zëbulon <invalid@mailinator.com > wrote: << >> << >>"iachi" <farenn@gmail.com> wrote in message << >>news:1171186823.267634.94450@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... << >>> Can anyone tell me how old my angel fish are if they are 2 inches from << >>> mouth to tail? << >>===================== << >>It's hard to go by that since they grow at different rates according to << >>water quality and temperature, and how and what they're fed. They're << >>probably less than a year old given average conditions. ------- I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!
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Date: 18 Feb 2007 00:12:14
From: Truth Seeker
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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Roy "Tristan" Hauer<tristansaintjohn@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:f4eus2943sgron4n7agvcsgvvs5gteqksf@4ax.com... > I doubt that carol, Odds are its more than 1 year...wanna guess again > carol? Keep on posting and maybe someday you may get something right [REJECTION] = Repetitious Content. Slander. False Impersonation. Disturbance of the peace. Harassment. Stalking. Further attempts to intrude your hate filled messages will result in sumy deletion of all your posts, unread, for a period of one week. Proving a negative is fallacious argument. Provide proof of all your fallacious allegations. > > On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:36:03 -0600, Zëbulon <invalid@mailinator.com> > wrote: > > <<>> > <<>>"iachi" <farenn@gmail.com> wrote in message > <<>>news:1171186823.267634.94450@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > <<>>> Can anyone tell me how old my angel fish are if they are 2 inches from > <<>>> mouth to tail? > <<>>===================== > <<>>It's hard to go by that since they grow at different rates according to > <<>>water quality and temperature, and how and what they're fed. They're > <<>>probably less than a year old given average conditions. > > > > ------- > I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!
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Date: 17 Feb 2007 01:57:35
From: Tristan
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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Knock any old ladies in the head today Roy Hauer? "Tristan" <tristansaintjohn@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:f4eus2943sgron4n7agvcsgvvs5gteqksf@4ax.com... > I doubt that carol, Odds are its more than 1 year...wanna guess again > carol? Keep on posting and maybe someday you may get something right > > On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:36:03 -0600, Zëbulon <invalid@mailinator.com> > wrote: > > <<>> > <<>>"iachi" <farenn@gmail.com> wrote in message > <<>>news:1171186823.267634.94450@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > <<>>> Can anyone tell me how old my angel fish are if they are 2 inches from > <<>>> mouth to tail? > <<>>===================== > <<>>It's hard to go by that since they grow at different rates according to > <<>>water quality and temperature, and how and what they're fed. They're > <<>>probably less than a year old given average conditions. > > > > ------- > I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!
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Date: 11 Feb 2007 12:19:22
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Z=EBbulon?=
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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"Tristan" <tristansaintjohn@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:f4eus2943sgron4n7agvcsgvvs5gteqksf@4ax.com... >I doubt that carol, Odds are its more than 1 year...wanna guess again > carol? Keep on posting and maybe someday you may get something right > ====================== Let me CORRECT you on this one. I don't have to guess Roy Tristan Hauer. At 2" from lips to tail they can well be under 12 months. When raised at 82F in good water conditions and feed live and frozen foods plus a good cichlid pellet, they grow FAST. Very fast!!!!!!!!! If they're not, you're not feeding them enough often enough. -- ZB.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }<((((* > ~~~ }<{{{{(ö> ~~~~ }<((((({*>
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Date: 11 Feb 2007 13:51:56
From: Tristan
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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Let me correct you on this, they will not be 2" On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:19:22 -0600, Zëbulon <invalid@mailinator.com > wrote: << >> << >>"Tristan" <tristansaintjohn@yahoo.com> wrote in message << >>news:f4eus2943sgron4n7agvcsgvvs5gteqksf@4ax.com... << >>>I doubt that carol, Odds are its more than 1 year...wanna guess again << >>> carol? Keep on posting and maybe someday you may get something right << >>> << >>====================== << >>Let me CORRECT you on this one. I don't have to guess Roy Tristan Hauer. << >>At 2" from lips to tail they can well be under 12 months. When raised at << >>82F in good water conditions and feed live and frozen foods plus a good << >>cichlid pellet, they grow FAST. Very fast!!!!!!!!! << >> << >>If they're not, you're not feeding them enough often enough. Sponsored in part by: The House of Carol Gulley© The Carol Gulley Institute of Usenet Socks Anonymity® and Sock Puppetry. The Committee to Take Back our USENET Groups! Gulleys Home for Orphaned Socks LLC. Supporters of Your Local Newsgroups (SLN, Ltd.) The Carol AKA Zebulon Gulley Plonk Foundation© Just say no to CArol Gulley! Its not all about Carol Gulley, Trust me on that! Send Carol an Email.....tell her how you realy feel! Send CArols ISP and NNTP aan Abuse report, let them know how you feel too. -= Have LoneGunman, Will Travel. =-
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Date: 18 Feb 2007 00:13:49
From: Truth Seeker
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish? Tristan stalks Granny Carol
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"Tristan" <tristansaintjohn@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:cusus2pakhtlhula02m2lcfkfd5s9m2tjg@4ax.com... > > > Let me correct you on this, they will not be 2" [REJECTION] = Repetitious Content. Slander. Threats. Disturbance of the peace. Harassment. Stalking. Further attempts to intrude your hate filled messages will result in sumy deletion of all your posts, unread, for a period of one week. Proving a negative is fallacious argument. Provide proof of all your fallacious allegations. > > On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:19:22 -0600, Zëbulon <invalid@mailinator.com> > wrote: > > <<>> > <<>>"Tristan" <tristansaintjohn@yahoo.com> wrote in message > <<>>news:f4eus2943sgron4n7agvcsgvvs5gteqksf@4ax.com... > <<>>>I doubt that carol, Odds are its more than 1 year...wanna guess again > <<>>> carol? Keep on posting and maybe someday you may get something right > <<>>> > <<>>====================== > <<>>Let me CORRECT you on this one. I don't have to guess Roy Tristan Hauer. > <<>>At 2" from lips to tail they can well be under 12 months. When raised at > <<>>82F in good water conditions and feed live and frozen foods plus a good > <<>>cichlid pellet, they grow FAST. Very fast!!!!!!!!! > <<>> > <<>>If they're not, you're not feeding them enough often enough. > > Sponsored in part by: > The House of Carol Gulley© > The Carol Gulley Institute of Usenet Socks > Anonymity® and Sock Puppetry. > The Committee to Take Back our USENET Groups! > Gulleys Home for Orphaned Socks LLC. > Supporters of Your Local Newsgroups (SLN, Ltd.) > The Carol AKA Zebulon Gulley Plonk Foundation© > Just say no to CArol Gulley! > Its not all about Carol Gulley, Trust me on that! > Send Carol an Email.....tell her how you realy feel! > Send CArols ISP and NNTP aan Abuse report, > let them know how you feel too. > > > > -= Have LoneGunman, Will Travel. =-
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Date: 14 Feb 2007 15:44:23
From: Tristan
Subject: Re: How old is my angle fish?
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Roy "Tristan" Hauer NET STALKER of old ladies and cripples <tristansaintjohn@yahoo.com > trolled us with this bullshit in message news:u346t29ue0gcl6h14hi4gn3vl3hrtjf0kt@4ax.com... > Truth be known. I "own" the bitch! Setting here right now looking at a > bill of sale ked Paid in Full...for 1 Bitch...........oh wait maybe > that was the one dog I bought! But I still own CArol with or without a > bill of sal;e. I say something , anyhting and she jumps through those > hoops and rings those bells just l ike a trained animal is taught to > perform in a circus. Her ex husbands taught her well! "Tristan" <tristansaintjohn@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:cusus2pakhtlhula02m2lcfkfd5s9m2tjg@4ax.com... > > > Let me correct you on this, they will not be 2" > > On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:19:22 -0600, Zëbulon <invalid@mailinator.com> > wrote: > > <<>> > <<>>"Tristan" <tristansaintjohn@yahoo.com> wrote in message > <<>>news:f4eus2943sgron4n7agvcsgvvs5gteqksf@4ax.com... > <<>>>I doubt that carol, Odds are its more than 1 year...wanna guess again > <<>>> carol? Keep on posting and maybe someday you may get something right > <<>>> > <<>>====================== > <<>>Let me CORRECT you on this one. I don't have to guess Roy Tristan Hauer. > <<>>At 2" from lips to tail they can well be under 12 months. When raised at > <<>>82F in good water conditions and feed live and frozen foods plus a good > <<>>cichlid pellet, they grow FAST. Very fast!!!!!!!!! > <<>> > <<>>If they're not, you're not feeding them enough often enough. > > Sponsored in part by: > The House of Carol Gulley© > The Carol Gulley Institute of Usenet Socks > Anonymity® and Sock Puppetry. > The Committee to Take Back our USENET Groups! > Gulleys Home for Orphaned Socks LLC. > Supporters of Your Local Newsgroups (SLN, Ltd.) > The Carol AKA Zebulon Gulley Plonk Foundation© > Just say no to CArol Gulley! > Its not all about Carol Gulley, Trust me on that! > Send Carol an Email.....tell her how you realy feel! > Send CArols ISP and NNTP aan Abuse report, > let them know how you feel too. > > > > -= Have LoneGunman, Will Travel. =-
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